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RealityFan · 18/07/2023 15:37

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 14:59

' CEO, Philip Miller MBE, said the company will not be participating in any future Pride celebrations.
He said: “We humbly apologise to all of our loyal customers for any offence caused

Ah, usual thing, in hindsight it was a mistake. Why doesn't anyone ever realise that beforehand?

They'd rather run the anger of their paying customers first than their headless chickens activist staff.

Of course, the shit will always hit the fan...eventually.

SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 15:12

WickedSerious · Today 13:18

- I hope his clothes are fire retardant. -

I'm not fussed if he isn't.

Fair enough, but I'm thinking of what could happen if he went up like a torch. He'd run round and someone else could be injured.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 14:59

' CEO, Philip Miller MBE, said the company will not be participating in any future Pride celebrations.
He said: “We humbly apologise to all of our loyal customers for any offence caused

Ah, usual thing, in hindsight it was a mistake. Why doesn't anyone ever realise that beforehand?

SirVixofVixHall · 18/07/2023 14:57

stickygotstuck · 18/07/2023 14:04

Actually, I think that's a very level-headed apology - we tried to do the 'in' thing, we were clueless about the whole thing, we got into hot water, we won't be doing it again.

Pretty sure similar scenarios are happening up and down the country, some of them without apology.

I agree. A reasonable, adult response.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 14:57

ResisterRex · 18/07/2023 12:56

In which case, I wonder if he could pitch it for broadcast on national telly before 9pm and let us know what happens.

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INteresting that you say that. BBC next week has a programme about the archaism and offensiveness of blackface. I'm sure the week after there'll be one about the offensiveness of drag and its parody of women and how many women find it problematic and insulting.

Not holding my breath, though.

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 14:54

Ah, just to inform you all - any criticism of this act is 'homophobia'. Apparently.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuzmSeIIKqt/?img_index=1

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https://www.instagram.com/p/CuzmSeIIKqt?img_index=1

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RealityFan · 18/07/2023 14:45

Anyone ever feel that Monty Python/Little Britain came to life and invaded the real world?

Beowulfa · 18/07/2023 14:43

Compare the clear and honest wording of the park CEO's response to the usual mealy-mouthed sulky non-apology served up by the usual suspects in PR.

RealityFan · 18/07/2023 14:36

Yeah, and the parents filming on their phones, their kids next to them absorbing the lot.

nonmerci99 · 18/07/2023 14:16

I really hate that this is being presented as progressive, family-friendly entertainment. It's not. I've seen plenty of drag queens in real life, and in each instance they represented an over-sexualised, generally misogynistic worldview that is in no way appropriate for children.

I'm not really sure how supporting drag queens became synonymous with supporting gay rights: drag queens might be part of that subculture, but so are lots of things that I don't want my young children exposed to (e.g., BDSM).

Brefugee · 18/07/2023 14:05

“The grinding act was most definitely a nonstarter as we are ostensibly a family park and that is just not family entertainment.

well, he is hiding in plain site here. He's using that word "ostensibly" but i don't think it means what he thinks it means

OSTENSIBLY | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

ostensibly

1. in a way that appears or claims to be one thing when it is really something…

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ostensibly

stickygotstuck · 18/07/2023 14:04

Actually, I think that's a very level-headed apology - we tried to do the 'in' thing, we were clueless about the whole thing, we got into hot water, we won't be doing it again.

Pretty sure similar scenarios are happening up and down the country, some of them without apology.

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 13:49

'we tried to be inclusive, but it has backfired on us.”

You xan hear the gritted teeth as he realises that 'inclusive' actually means 'removing boundaries', and that actually means adult men performing sex acts in front of children.

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LizzieSiddal · 18/07/2023 13:47

“Rest assured we will not be…participating in any future PRIDE celebrations”

Wow, the adults have finally entered the room.

loislovesstewie · 18/07/2023 13:43

I'm glad the park apologised, but maybe drag should not be allowed in this sort of place full stop, I mean it's not exactly Les Dawson doing his old lady over the wall chat, is it?

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 13:39

' CEO, Philip Miller MBE, said the company will not be participating in any future Pride celebrations.
He said: “We humbly apologise to all of our loyal customers for any offence caused.
“There was confusion between us and the act as to what we would allow or not as it were.
“The grinding act was most definitely a nonstarter as we are ostensibly a family park and that is just not family entertainment.
“Rest assured we will not be rebooking this act or participate in any future PRIDE celebrations it is just not for us, we tried to be inclusive, but it has backfired on us.”

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 13:25

*children, not holden

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 13:25

I can only guess that like cabababarave, the claim is that although people are stripping, pole dancing, gyrating in a sexualised manner this is done with some kind of irony filter so it doesn't count as sexualised performance to holden, which is what it is.

I wonder what the licensing board will say about that?

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WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 13:18

SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 10:59

I hope his clothes are fire retardant.

I'm not fussed if he isn't.

SerafinasGoose · 18/07/2023 13:17

Not even pretending anymore, are they?

It's fine in licensed clubs. So why make a beeline for children? (The question is rhetorical).

ResisterRex · 18/07/2023 12:56

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 12:51

Crystal insisted to MailOnline that he believes that 'nothing' he did in the performance was sexual.

So why angle grind your crotch? What is it if its not sexual?

In which case, I wonder if he could pitch it for broadcast on national telly before 9pm and let us know what happens.

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 12:51

Crystal insisted to MailOnline that he believes that 'nothing' he did in the performance was sexual.

So why angle grind your crotch? What is it if its not sexual?

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ResisterRex · 18/07/2023 11:32

Don't expect Essex police to do anything about it:

twitter.com/wearefaircop/status/1669310836924465152?s=46&t=WHoOZ_3Kv5G6-FyQuvE0LQ

RoseslnTheHospital · 18/07/2023 11:16

It's not much of an act, really, just tottering around whilst wielding the angle grinder. It's very very old hat, I've seen much better versions of this done properly, not in drag, for an adult audience in a nightclub 20 years ago or more. It needs to be dark for the sparks to be impressive.

This is just sad, and inappropriate in the context.