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Jellycats4life · 18/07/2023 18:03

I agree the apology from the CEO was decent, but what jumps out is “We tried to be inclusive”.

Which proves that they don’t have a clue. They are glibly box ticking and patting themselves on the back for being so of the zeitgeist.

The libraries and toddler groups who book adult entertainers also don’t have a clue. Any family oriented space who tries to be inclusive (I’d love to actually grill them as to what “inclusive” means to them - do they mean “diversity”, which then somehow jumps right to “yay drag queens”?)

🤷‍♀️

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 17:56

Simon Cowell said it turned him on.

If this isn't sexualised, then why is it turning men on? Piers Morgan also has plenty to say about how 'sexy' he finds the performance.

This might sound bold, but hear me out - I'm going to say any performance that involves genitals is not suitable for children.

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 17:54

Here's the woman who did this on Britain's Got Talent.

Tacky as fuck, but leaving that aside, this also isn't suitable for children.

And here are a couple of women doing it for Bonfire Night in a small town. Again, tacky, not suitable children etc.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3305612/Parents-promised-family-fireworks-treated-shocking-display-scantily-clad-women-shooting-sparks-groins.html

Britain's Got Talent - Victoria + Grinder - FULL HQ VERSION

The VERY sexy Victoria on Britain's Got Talent, featuring her axle grinder. She completely flabbergasts the judges with her sexy performance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaRpmklhKfo

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 17:44

I tried to do a bit of research on crotch-angle-grinding.

Unfortunately Reddit has age-restricted a thread on it.

Can't think why, pure wholesome entertainment for the kiddies, surely?

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/268xp1/til_about_anglegrind_performers/

Reddit - Dive into anything

https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/268xp1/til_about_anglegrind_performers

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 18/07/2023 17:43

And he does this act regularly? That is not going to end with a full quota of testicles.

That would be awful.

GretaGip · 18/07/2023 17:40

To my old lady eyes those sparks look like ejaculate.

So that's nice.

LizzieSiddal · 18/07/2023 17:38

Peony654 · Today 17:31

It’s not hard. If you don’t like it, don’t go.

At least the owners of this children’s park are much more into safeguarding children than you.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 18/07/2023 17:37

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 13:37

Now that's a proper apology from a business aware of their target audience (at the beginning of the summer holidays)!
And he recognises how "inclusivity" can rebound on a business when the lack of boundaries are exposed to horrified parents of young children.

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 17:34

Peony654 · 18/07/2023 17:31

It’s not hard. If you don’t like it, don’t go.

Is this your response to all adults performing sex shows for children?

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Jellycats4life · 18/07/2023 17:33

Crotch angle grinding literally seem to be his only act. He did it on Drag Race and that was years ago. How edgy <yawn>

Also, I know that theme park well and the fact that they’d even book a drag queen to do some crotch angle grinding to passing crowds of Southend day trippers is just so bizarre. What were they thinking?

Peony654 · 18/07/2023 17:31

It’s not hard. If you don’t like it, don’t go.

LizzieSiddal · 18/07/2023 17:30

I know Phillip Miller. He won't be tolerating any of that crap again

Its a shame the bosses of those art galleries and libraries who push the Drag stuff to children, don’t react in the same way as him.

Eloweeese · 18/07/2023 17:10

I know Phillip Miller. He won't be tolerating any of that crap again

mrshoho · 18/07/2023 16:50

That's a great theme park for families and when we've been, the entertainers were young, enthusiastic park staff who do a fab job. I'd have been so pissed off to stumble across this tasteless and talentless crap. I wish the audience had just walked away. It looked like at least one child was embarrassed. I'm very glad the CEO has reflected and acknowledged it was wrong.

WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 16:47

SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 15:12

WickedSerious · Today 13:18

- I hope his clothes are fire retardant. -

I'm not fussed if he isn't.

Fair enough, but I'm thinking of what could happen if he went up like a torch. He'd run round and someone else could be injured.

I'm sure someone's standing by with a fire blanket or a tranquilizer gun.

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 16:46

And of course there are quite a lot of men who seem to think that castration is a sexual thing, too. I keep forgetting.

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ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 16:45

the only way I can see angle grinding a penis is NOT sexual is if it's a reference to castration.

Either way, it's not CBeebies.

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viques · 18/07/2023 16:44

He can angle grind his penis to oblivion if he wants , it won’t grow back as a clitoris .

ArabeIIaScott · 18/07/2023 16:44

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 14:59

' CEO, Philip Miller MBE, said the company will not be participating in any future Pride celebrations.
He said: “We humbly apologise to all of our loyal customers for any offence caused

Ah, usual thing, in hindsight it was a mistake. Why doesn't anyone ever realise that beforehand?

Plenty of people think drag is just the thing for kids - loud, glittery, brightly coloured. And 'inclusive' - bonus!

That drag is riddled with misogyny in its caricatures of women is never going to be a big issue with most of society, which is generally comfortable with sexism.

A genre born out of specifically male culture, predicated on the idea of men mocking females, and often incorporating or revolving around sex/adult humour and references is generally not really best suited for children, but it's apparently 'bigotry' to say so.

The fact that the act includes literal crotch-grinding, however, is apparently a step too far.

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Abhannmor · 18/07/2023 16:41

Abhannmor · 18/07/2023 16:38

There's a Count Arthur Strong vibe about the whole thing.

Oh just realised it's Southend on Sea. Poundshop Brighton. The desperation ...

Abhannmor · 18/07/2023 16:38

There's a Count Arthur Strong vibe about the whole thing.

Brefugee · 18/07/2023 16:19

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 16:15

Perhaps he meant 'obviously.'

I am going to assume so. But who knows, maybe he's laughing at us all?

Datun · 18/07/2023 16:17

Beowulfa · 18/07/2023 14:43

Compare the clear and honest wording of the park CEO's response to the usual mealy-mouthed sulky non-apology served up by the usual suspects in PR.

Yes indeed.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 18/07/2023 16:15

Brefugee · 18/07/2023 15:38

if you can look past "we are ostensibly a children's..."

Ostensibly is the wrong word.

Perhaps he meant 'obviously.'

Brefugee · 18/07/2023 15:38

SirVixofVixHall · 18/07/2023 14:57

I agree. A reasonable, adult response.

if you can look past "we are ostensibly a children's..."

Ostensibly is the wrong word.