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Not sure this is the ‘win’ India thinks it is

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ACatCalledPushka · 17/07/2023 20:57

India was delighted on Twitter that the hospital band India was wearing said ‘female’.

I hope for India’s sake that India’s doctors understand biology and should India need a transfusion of blood that India does not receive blood from a female who has previously been pregnant.

Not sure this is the ‘win’ India thinks it is
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SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 10:57

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SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 10:55

“An alternative explanation could be a difference in iron status between ever-pregnant female and male donors. Some studies also report differences in red blood cell physiology between the sexes.^

Hmm. So he thinks he's got female anatomy, but he hasn't got female blood. And even though he swears that taking oestrogen has turned all his cells female (although no biologist is aware of any mechanism by which a hormone can metamorphose a Y chromosome into an X chromosome) his blood is decidedly still 100% male.

You know, on account of erythrocytes stubbornly and transphobically refusing to contain chromosomes.

potniatheron · 18/07/2023 10:48

India's wristband just proves that nurses, whilst taking no shit, also cannot be arsed to deal with disruptive individuals because they have better things to do than reassure India about how pretty and feminine India is. If it means slapping the wrong wristband on 'em, fine. The right sex will be obvious on the notes.

Ah, India...always taking L's for the cause.

tidalway · 18/07/2023 10:47

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WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 10:34

Still no sign of that cervix then?

Tallisker · 18/07/2023 10:34

Let's hope it's nothing trivial

Beowulfa · 18/07/2023 10:16

Martina Navratilova has committed terrible crimes against woman-genderness; she is not conventionally pretty/feminine (whilst still being very clearly female), and crucially she genuinely doesn't give a fuck.

See also Prof Stock; causing confusion and outrage by being a short-haired woman in trousers sitting confidently on a chair.

Froodwithatowel · 18/07/2023 08:22

This is a person that is really not well, and I'm always deeply uncomfortable about them being in the public eye. But if these sorts of fantasy statements are going to be made, then the speaker gives the general public two choices: how far are you prepared to indulge and enable me in this fantasy because you're a nice person who doesn't want to upset me or cause a fuss? And how far are you prepared to engage in mad lying when you know it will be exploited to the nth degree, not just to enable one unhappy and unwell person, but used to take other people's rights and realities away and oppress and subordinate an entire sex class?

A subordination that actually the fantasist never has to worry about because they knew as well as everyone else that their fantasy has nice safe boundaries and it isn't real with the real issues they're happy to inflict on those they identify as?

That's the point I'm afraid it doesn't matter how sad and upset reality makes a person: I'm not going to take the script they hand me, or play their game. Any more than if they insisted I pretend they were Napoleon or Galadriel.

Twyford · 18/07/2023 07:30

sleepyscientist · 17/07/2023 21:35

Yes people can have blood from someone who has had children. What the OP is half talking about is blood plasma from XX (regardless of pregnancy) which isn't really used for anyone as it's has a higher likelihood of containing antibodies to the recipients red cells. UK plasma is XY sourced as they don't get exposed to foreign tissue in the form of foetus.

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In that case it seems to be irrelevant to this issue?

RebelliousCow · 18/07/2023 07:24

It can't be good or healthy to spend your life having to fight everyone's perception of you - or of having an identity that hinges on such fragile foundations.

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Whatwouldscullydo · 18/07/2023 07:04

This is why transition should simply be viewed as self harm. Anyone who thinks altering MEDICAL records is a good thing is clearly suicidal. This is not kind. Jind doesn't mean say what someone wants to hear. It means telling the truth even if its the hardest thing to say and/or listen to.

RebelliousCow · 18/07/2023 07:02

I can see a fake tan line......

RebelliousCow · 18/07/2023 07:01

What information is being covered by all of that pink red tape on the wrist band?

Tontostitis · 18/07/2023 06:58

I love that photo of Martina she's bloody gorgeous and she is a real superhero

TheGreatATuin · 18/07/2023 06:18

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PriOn1 · 18/07/2023 05:50

wineschmine · 17/07/2023 22:25

I k on my vaguely know who India is, and I don't know who martina is....but I'm guessing a biological female?

And this India character says they are "more of a woman than martina"?

Jesus wept.

This is the The Emperors New Clothes.

Martina Navratilova was a tennis champion - one of the greatest of all time. Also a champion of lesbian rights.

MrsJamin · 18/07/2023 05:45

Can I just add that I ♥️ Emma Hilton (fondofbeetles on twitter)! She was just trying to get India to acknowledge reality but alas India blocked her when the conversation was just getting going.

MrsJamin · 18/07/2023 05:35

India isjust lying now, surely, not just being stupid of delusion? It's dangerous if someone medical in the hospital makes a decision based on the F rather the evidence of their own eyes.

tidalway · 18/07/2023 04:31

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Pocodaku · 18/07/2023 04:05

Yes, India has moved from claiming to be “more woman than” to being “more female than” [insert famous female name]. India is a sperm-haver, having biologically fathered children with said sperm. India also claimed on tv that it didn’t matter what a cervix was (India didn’t know what it was), and in any case surgeons could just construct one.

SabrinaThwaite · 18/07/2023 03:42

Pixiedust1234 · 17/07/2023 23:45

That’s one of India’s favourite photos that gets trotted out regularly

Oh...so this isn't recent, ie the past week?

Tweeted recently again but it’s an old photo, seen it before. Makes a change from using a photo of the passport page with the sex marker changed to F.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 18/07/2023 01:16

If you’ve got a bar code reader handy then could you read all of India’s personal information from that photo?

i think India sometimes lets cognitive dissonance get in the way of his social media

Ramblingnamechanger · 18/07/2023 01:09

Just hope that it is a male ward