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ACatCalledPushka · 2023-07-17T19:57:44+00:00

India was delighted on Twitter that the hospital band India was wearing said ‘female’. I hope for India’s sake that India’s doctors understand biology and should India need a transfusion of blood that India does not receive blood from a female who has previously been pregnant.

puffyisgood · 19/07/2023 15:42

EpicChaos · 19/07/2023 00:37

Of course what he didn't point out was, that in the bed opposite, is Napoleon, whilst in the bed next but one resides Elvis and Norman Bates is currently trying on a new jacket in the next bay.
His barcode incidentally, says past it's best by date so 23 and a half pence, no returns!

more like, "a 57 year old man came in reporting a severely bruised cervix. we're keeping him comfortable pending a psych evaluation".

MavisMcMinty · 19/07/2023 15:40

I wish India was here on Mumsnet to explain how we’re doing feminism so wrong. I think India would enjoy it, and I know I would.

WallaceinAnderland · 19/07/2023 15:36

WTF is this tweet about. Do words like biology mean different things now too?

What I would like people like IW to answer is this:

Is there a difference between men and woman -

Answer no - please explain why anyone transitions

Answer yes - please explain what the difference is

Not sure this is the ‘win’ India thinks it is

EpicChaos · 19/07/2023 00:37

Of course what he didn't point out was, that in the bed opposite, is Napoleon, whilst in the bed next but one resides Elvis and Norman Bates is currently trying on a new jacket in the next bay.
His barcode incidentally, says past it's best by date so 23 and a half pence, no returns!

Froodwithatowel · 18/07/2023 18:12

Is there any transwoman who is not male? It's the one sole requisite characteristic. No one who is not biologically male can ever be a transwoman.

And whatever surgical or hormonal adaptations a male person makes to their body, they can only become a surgically and hormonally adapted biological male. They are expanding the bandwidth of male biological variation and that is all that is possible.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 18/07/2023 17:24

mrshoho · 17/07/2023 23:35

If India heaven forbid should develop prostate issues in the future what will India do? Would India acknowledge her male body and seek the appropriate treatment or would India continue with the delusional thinking that India is more female than biologically born females?

Yes, exactly. Has India's prostate been removed..... As naive as it sounds I'm shocked the NHS can change biological description from 'male'. Wouldn't 'Transwoman-male' be more accurate. I really feel for India's son.

NotAMissionPriority · 18/07/2023 17:17

To be consumed by cats sounds quite nice to me.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2023 17:15

LakeTiticaca · 17/07/2023 21:15

Can a male not have blood from a previously pregnant woman?

No. It causes problems as the blood of a woman who has been pregnant is significantly changed from that of a woman who has not been pregnant.

mrshoho · 18/07/2023 16:56

WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 16:41

There's something very masculine about it.

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Exactly that. They have a belief that being female/women boils down to appearance. As if females have no substance. Warped and deluded thinking.

WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 16:41

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2023 16:28

The sheer misogynist nastiness in India’s tweets is a sight to behold. What a piece of work they are.

There's something very masculine about it.

viques · 18/07/2023 16:30

Froodwithatowel · 17/07/2023 21:28

Oh love 😥

It's a meant to be kind lie. No one believes it, they're just saying it soothingly. It isn't real.

This is why it is so bloody cruel to enable people in these beliefs. Reality is a bastard and you cannot word is away.

India doesn’t get it do they. That arm band is the trans equivalent of the sticker a kid gets for being stoic for an injection, or the funky coloured plaster cast covers they let kids choose to distract them from their broken bones.

”India was a very bwave girl today” Yaaaay!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 18/07/2023 16:28

The sheer misogynist nastiness in India’s tweets is a sight to behold. What a piece of work they are.

PorcelinaV · 18/07/2023 16:26

I don't think it's going to be tested in court because as far as I know there is no civil law against "hate speech".

Froodwithatowel · 18/07/2023 16:19

'The lie that men can be women' is hate speech is it?

I'd quite like to see that one tested in court.

mrshoho · 18/07/2023 16:16

The vile tweets India Willoughby is posting regarding Martina Navratilova have got to put India at risk of being sued. Stating Martina is not a female etc etc. IW is coming across as an unhinged fool. ANY TV PRODUCERS inviting IW on to mainstream TV shows should look carefully.

SamanthaThePanther · 18/07/2023 15:23

That's really interesting about the blood transfusion. Thanks for teaching me.

This article from time.com (unfortunately, in the title, they use "gender" when they should have used "sex").
https://time.com/4987922/blood-donations-transfusions-pregnant-women/

It May Be Risky for Men to Receive Blood Donations From Women Who Have Been Pregnant

A new study found an increased risk of death

https://time.com/4987922/blood-donations-transfusions-pregnant-women

WallaceinAnderland · 18/07/2023 15:09

IW is urging someone to sue. Wouldn't that be great. Would love to see this tested in court and also to see IW's tweets exposed to all. Sorry for quality, sent to me via photo, not screenshot but still currently on IW's twitter.

IW - Facts matter!

SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 14:54

Oh... The filter didn't like that one.

Froodwithatowel · 18/07/2023 13:38

SabrinaThwaite · 18/07/2023 11:51

Emma got “What a miserable way to spend a life, consumed by hate, cruelty and cats”.

Is being consumed by cats a thing now?

Seems a bit ailurophobic to me.

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How many of us have had men call us 'frigid' when we did not immediately do exactly as he wanted and expected?

Same old same old. #theservicehumansarerevolting

HowardKirksConscience · 18/07/2023 12:03

mrshoho · 17/07/2023 23:35

If India heaven forbid should develop prostate issues in the future what will India do? Would India acknowledge her male body and seek the appropriate treatment or would India continue with the delusional thinking that India is more female than biologically born females?

It would be a female prostate, though. More female than other females’ prostates, too.

WickedSerious · 18/07/2023 11:58

Icandothis1970 · 18/07/2023 11:04

😂😂
Even body cells are transphobic!!!

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It's like they don't care.

SabrinaThwaite · 18/07/2023 11:51

Helleofabore · 18/07/2023 11:38

I refer to calling women 'bitter, dry, old bags' as Willoughby did the other day. I believe it was aimed at Sharron Davies and I even think that Dr Emma Hilton got one too.

Emma got “What a miserable way to spend a life, consumed by hate, cruelty and cats”.

Is being consumed by cats a thing now?

Seems a bit ailurophobic to me.

Helleofabore · 18/07/2023 11:38

I refer to calling women 'bitter, dry, old bags' as Willoughby did the other day. I believe it was aimed at Sharron Davies and I even think that Dr Emma Hilton got one too.

Helleofabore · 18/07/2023 11:37

The way that Willoughby talks about women that disagree with them is so misogynistic. It is really worrisome to think that there is a child soaking up that attitude towards people out there.

Icandothis1970 · 18/07/2023 11:04

SinnerBoy · 18/07/2023 10:55

“An alternative explanation could be a difference in iron status between ever-pregnant female and male donors. Some studies also report differences in red blood cell physiology between the sexes.^

Hmm. So he thinks he's got female anatomy, but he hasn't got female blood. And even though he swears that taking oestrogen has turned all his cells female (although no biologist is aware of any mechanism by which a hormone can metamorphose a Y chromosome into an X chromosome) his blood is decidedly still 100% male.

You know, on account of erythrocytes stubbornly and transphobically refusing to contain chromosomes.

😂😂
Even body cells are transphobic!!!