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'Rape clause' row as Keir Starmer says Labour will not scrap two child benefit cap

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IwantToRetire · 17/07/2023 18:36

Sir Keir Starmer has confirmed that Labour will not scrap the two-child benefit cap and the so-called rape clause.

In an interview with the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg, the Labour leader refused to be drawn on a number of other spending commitments but was definite on the policy recently described by his Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Jon Ashworth as “heinous”.

The two-child policy was introduced by George Osborne in his 2015 budget. It came into effect in 2017 after MPs backed the measure in the House of Commons.
It means that households claiming child tax credit or universal credit are unable to claim for a third or subsequent child born after 6 April 2017.

Earlier this week, the latest statistics revealed that 1.5 million children were growing up in families impacted by the cap. Children's charities, including Barnados and the Child Poverty Action Group have said this "tax on siblings" is the "biggest driver of rising child poverty in the UK today."

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/rape-clause-row-keir-starmer-090500712.html

There are lots of posters on FWR who feel alienated from Labour, some have even been kicked out.

But then other posters say anything is better than the Tories.

So without listing all the sins of the Tories, it would be really interesting to see information of proposed and actual Labour policies that will be good for women.

I mean actualyl centred on the reality of women's lives, not on the notion that women's rights should go to the back of the queue and women should sacrifice themselves for the "greater good".

Or in fact is the difference between the Tories and Labour wafer thin with nothing but self id being the dividing line.

'Rape clause' row as Keir Starmer says Labour will not scrap two child benefit cap

Sir Keir Starmer has confirmed that Labour will not scrap the two-child benefit cap and the so-called rape clause.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/rape-clause-row-keir-starmer-090500712.html

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QueenHippolyta · 17/07/2023 19:08

Gods this is awful. Every Western country goes on about the declining birth rate but does nothing to help mothers!
Immigration is a huge expense...maybe less of that and a big allowance for those mothers who want a big family.

Macaroni46 · 17/07/2023 19:04

Will no doubt get flamed but I agree with the cap. No one needs to have 3 children. Three children is a luxury.

Toseland · 17/07/2023 19:04

What is Labour's stance on abortion?

Howpo · 17/07/2023 19:01

Labour are looking more and more like the Tory party, its ridiculous, i understand the need to be prudent and avoid the tax and spend shite the Mail will throw at them but people need some hope after 13 years of the Tories but Starmer is offering none at all.

The 2 kids benefit rule is awful, one of the worst things the Cons have done to the family, on par with china's former one child rule.

Mummy08m · 17/07/2023 18:53

I can't answer your question but I just want to say this policy (two child benefit cap) makes me very sad. On a thread a few weeks ago was a low-income mum in an overcrowded council house, and she was pregnant with a surprise but wanted baby... so many comments were saying she should abort. And, practically, that might be the best thing. But it breaks my heart that we live in a society where a loving mum would have to abort a wanted baby because she can't afford it. And most of my friends and family call me conservative (small c). Domestic birth rates are so low in this country, we should celebrate mums and babies.

BlackRookInRainyWeather · 17/07/2023 18:39

Labour make me despair. Sarwar in Scotland also saying the same. Utterly depressing.