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Urinals closed in men's toilets

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Glamourreader · 17/07/2023 07:37

Yesterday I saw a sign on the men's toilets in my local shopping centre saying that the urinals were now closed to increase inclusivity for trans-men. Has anyone else seen this near them?

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JanesLittleGirl · 17/07/2023 21:16

ODFOx · 17/07/2023 20:50

Didn't she start a medicine degree but dropped out? Could her lack of understanding of GCSE Biology have been a factor?

Politics' loss, medicine's gain in this case.

ODFOx · 17/07/2023 20:50

Mochudubh · 17/07/2023 20:15

Kirsty Blackman, she assumed her chromosomes were XY.

She's my MP 🙄

Didn't she start a medicine degree but dropped out? Could her lack of understanding of GCSE Biology have been a factor?

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 20:18

Mochudubh · 17/07/2023 20:15

Kirsty Blackman, she assumed her chromosomes were XY.

She's my MP 🙄

You're right, XY.
It was so dumb, I just couldn't bring myself to write it.

Mochudubh · 17/07/2023 20:15

Kirsty Blackman, she assumed her chromosomes were XY.

She's my MP 🙄

castlesandsand · 17/07/2023 20:10

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 19:59

That SNP MSP who claimed she hadn't checked her genitals, thought she "might be XX", and really didn't consider her sex in any meaningful way (despite pushing a couple of babies out)...just what does she do when approaching a choice of toilet doors?

Take a photo of her ‘special area’ and ask a friend? Or give taking a piss in a urinal a try and see how it goes 😂😂

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 20:05

JacquelinePot · 17/07/2023 19:48

@RealityFan it's tragic but it's true!

Imagine the Little Britain guys before they sold out to woke...they'd have a field day with this shit.

Indeed, one of the strangest phenomena associated with this Dark Age is the lack of satirical and brutal comedy riffing on all of this.

It's like the days of Stalin, Mao and Kim Jung. No comedy at the expense of the regime.

Could you imagine Dame Edna, John Cleese, Billy Connelly or Bill Hicks etc self censoring to suck all this up?

No, neither can I. Today's comics, with the honourable exceptions of Ricky Gervais, Chris Rock and the guy who caused a ruckus at Netflix, are a shadow of the greats.

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 19:59

castlesandsand · 17/07/2023 19:51

ffs - had a week of this at work. Toilets are not an expression of gender, but sex (which are different). Functionally designed to handle a bodily function- nothing more. Look at your bits in the middle, choose the door which is most appropriate & find another way to make yourself more interesting 🙄

That SNP MSP who claimed she hadn't checked her genitals, thought she "might be XX", and really didn't consider her sex in any meaningful way (despite pushing a couple of babies out)...just what does she do when approaching a choice of toilet doors?

castlesandsand · 17/07/2023 19:51

ffs - had a week of this at work. Toilets are not an expression of gender, but sex (which are different). Functionally designed to handle a bodily function- nothing more. Look at your bits in the middle, choose the door which is most appropriate & find another way to make yourself more interesting 🙄

JacquelinePot · 17/07/2023 19:48

@RealityFan it's tragic but it's true!

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 19:44

JacquelinePot · 17/07/2023 19:40

I haven't rtft but I find it hard to believe that we're now doing things to benefit (some) women that would have a cost to men. Imo though, that's exactly what is needed to make the wheels come off - when men en masse start to find themselves on the sharp end, this ideology will end.

"Men in women's sport, prisons, rape crisis centres, lesbian clubs and dating sites? So what?Remind me what the problems are again?

Urinals removed from my loos? WTF is happening?! THIS...MUST... CEASE...!!!"

JacquelinePot · 17/07/2023 19:40

I haven't rtft but I find it hard to believe that we're now doing things to benefit (some) women that would have a cost to men. Imo though, that's exactly what is needed to make the wheels come off - when men en masse start to find themselves on the sharp end, this ideology will end.

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 17/07/2023 19:25

QueensBees · 17/07/2023 19:13

Lovely.

Because sure enough, this will lead to urine everywhere, no water to flush it down etc… the smell!!
If you are happy with that level of cleaning, I suppose that’s ok 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Unless they've actually disconnected the urinals, then there's not going to be pee everywhere, it'll just go down the drain as usual.

Yeah, you might not get the half hourly flush if they've turned that off, but most men's toilets reek of piss anyway, especially shopping center ones, there's not going to be a significant difference to normal.

Men don't need to sit down to use a toilet 90% of the time, it means we've got a much less high standard around what we'll put up with. Remove the urinals, and you'll get a minority of men deciding to piss in the sink as a dirty protest.

QueensBees · 17/07/2023 19:13

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 17/07/2023 16:50

Nah it won't. Every time one of us walks in and the cubicles are full, we're just going to use the urinal anyway. They're going to have to physically remove the urinals before we stop.

Lovely.

Because sure enough, this will lead to urine everywhere, no water to flush it down etc… the smell!!
If you are happy with that level of cleaning, I suppose that’s ok 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

QueensBees · 17/07/2023 19:11

I hope it’s happening
Either both men and women are to be made trans inclusive or none are.

Yes much longer queues for the men 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
I hope they’ll also have sanitary bins etc there too.

LonginesPrime · 17/07/2023 19:02

greenspaces4peace · 17/07/2023 15:58

Men pee everywhere on anything, some will use the urinals regardless, or the corner of the floor, the waste bin, the sink.

Well, I just hope this is all covered in the information pack that I assume all transmen receive before they make a final decision on whether or not they want to transition.

It sounds very, erm, kind that shopping centres might be removing all the urinals in their honour, but I can't imagine that's what they're envisaging when they contemplate "trans joy".

fdgdfgdfgdfg · 17/07/2023 16:50

MathiasBroucek · 17/07/2023 09:49

So now the queue for the gents will be just as long as the one for the ladies... 🤔

Nah it won't. Every time one of us walks in and the cubicles are full, we're just going to use the urinal anyway. They're going to have to physically remove the urinals before we stop.

Paperbagsaremine · 17/07/2023 16:11

ZairWazAnOldLady · 17/07/2023 09:58

I’m confused as to why it would be terrifying to photograph or the town needs to be unmentionable. Seems an odd reason to remove urinals.

"Pics or it didn't happen"

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 16:03

My GF is no fan of most of the female loos she has to inhabit. Literally no bed of fragrant roses. I've told her Starmer and Ash Sarkar have no issue with her using the Mens, but she's resisted the urge so far, lol.

greenspaces4peace · 17/07/2023 15:58

Men pee everywhere on anything, some will use the urinals regardless, or the corner of the floor, the waste bin, the sink.

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 15:56

BanjoKnickers · 17/07/2023 15:55

From what I've heard it's not uncommon for men to shit on the floor next to the basins and even in the basins.

I hope to not live to see that day.

BanjoKnickers · 17/07/2023 15:55

MardiMoo · 17/07/2023 14:42

…also I have it in good authority that some men use urinals in the less salubrious parts of town for both pee AND poo if there is a line. I know disgusting, but there we are.

From what I've heard it's not uncommon for men to shit on the floor next to the basins and even in the basins.

FreedomDrops · 17/07/2023 15:52

If that sign exists at all it's a hoax!

And hypothetically if it isn't then men will (quite rightly) ignore it. People at work during COVID might have been more compliant in a public-health emergency. People in a shopping centre with queues for the bogs who want to pee will ignore what is blatant bollocks.

RealityFan · 17/07/2023 15:43

The way men piss on the floor in public toilets, it's immaterial if there are any urinals at all.
No lol.

MardiMoo · 17/07/2023 14:42

…also I have it in good authority that some men use urinals in the less salubrious parts of town for both pee AND poo if there is a line. I know disgusting, but there we are.