KJK and the neo-nazis video

No no no, the warm and fuzzy feels of the parents are what’s important here! So important we should pretend that two people of the same sex can make a baby!

reality is not homophobic

or even homophonic

How, and how many times can it be changed?
What does current partner have to do with recording the birth of a child?
A what child's age will the revisionism of the birth certificate stop if ever?

Hypothetically if a parent wants to be annoying can they :
Change their own name legally every six months just to annoy the child by getting their birth certificate revised every six months.
Change partners regularly for the same effect.
Change the child's name on the birth certificate even against the child's wishes.
Keep changing these things even when the child is themselves an adult.

A birth certificate is a historical record, not an extension of tiktok.

Surely you care about the rights of the child to know who their biological parents are?

This is about the child remember, not the adults?

I guess she doesn't want lesbian allies 🤷‍♀️

Apparently just like the wizard author KJK is all out of fucks to give for any people peddling this garbage. Smears don't work, emotional blackmail doesn't work, none of the dirty underhand sly knife in the back tactics work anymore, none of them work any more.
You could always try thinking for yourself as a last resort.

Can we just create a new field for "legal guardian and partner of the mother"?

There's a difference between parental responsibility and the people who gave birth to to a child. I think you are getting the two mixed up.

Hypothetically lets take two parents, they can be any sex, gender, sexuality you want. They have a child together. A while later they get divorced/separate whatever you want to call it, and one gets custody. The one with custody get a new partner. Does the child's birth certificate get changed to reflect the new partner's parental responsibility? If you are treating it as a parental responsibility certificate then surely that child's birth cetificate should be scrubbed of the old partner and a new partner added every time this happens?

Should a hetro married man with kids be able to go back and change the children's birth certificates if he decides he wants to pretend to be a woman later in life? "I felt like a woman at the time. I want my kids birth certicates changed."

In all these examples and what you said above the wants of the adults are assumed to be a priority over the rights and needs of the children. Surely this is wrong. The birth certificate is for recording the birth of the child, not reflecting the whims of selfish parents. The parents have their own birth certificates, let them fuck around with those if they want to play ego games.

Should an adopted child have their birth certificate wiped clean and the adopting parents put in just to keep the adults happy? Is that a good sign that the child will be loved and cared for?

Stop putting the petty selfish need of adults who are meant to be the mature ones in charge making the sensible decisions before the needs of children who are meant to be the ones protected by the adults.

If two lesbians love and care for a child why do they "need" superifical lies on official paperwork to be happy? If the truth on a birth certificate is an issue for a parent that parent is probably going to be a really shitty parent to the child.

All children born via sperm donors in the UK (so the children of lesbians) have the legal right to know their donor when they turn 18.

Let’s not worry about the right of the child to know who her biological mother and father are eh?

adult validation for the win!

Limiting the parental rights of gay and lesbian couples is really depressing. I don't know why anyone would want to adopt the homophobic tactics of Giorgia Meloni in this country. I don't see how it benefits women.

Christ, Bernard. That's bringing me out in hi vis

That's rather brilliant.

Yes, she is a right wing homophobe

Isn't that tautology? I thought that for some people by definition all homophobes and transphobes and whatsthecausethisweekphobes are right wing. Or extreme right wing. Or ultra right wing. Or hard right. Doesn't it go without saying?

Your mates have a whole website dedicated to how much they hate her - you're about as warm to her as a pizza left in the arctic circle

Oy vey

pretendy pretendy pretendy

there are clearly 2 things here of equal importance

the biological father and mother of a child

the people with parental responsibility

up until now the birth certificate kinda recorded both, if you squinted a bit

going forward it’s not going to work

the solution is not to pretend that two women can make a baby

Every time I start warming to KJK she will post something else about lesbians not deserving equal rights. Today it was same sex parents having the audacity to both want to be on their child's birth certificate. KJK obviously can't imagine why a same sex couple bringing up a child would both want to be the legal parents of that child.

I guess she doesn't want lesbian allies 🤷‍♀️

How long have you known her then?

Sean doesn't believe in Free Speech? 😂

Only for people he doesn't like, I'm betting!

So if I reported Sean for spouting misogynistic hate speech and inciting hatred against KJK (not that YouTube would care, probably give him a medal, so this is in a fantasy world where women who don't believe you can change sex run YouTube) . . . and YouTube banned him and deleted all his videos and the Met Police arrested him and threw him in clink (more fantasy-world stuff) he would be OK with that?

These censorious, virtue-signalling, authoritarian idiots haven't got the brains they were born with!

I specifically loved pacifically!

It appeals to my Pacificness!

Christ, Bernard. That's bringing me out in hi vis.

more context

I heard she pacifically encourages children to be stationery and to identify as a Chester draws. She stairs and then complements them if she thinks they’ve done a good job

disgusting homophone

"There is absolutely no argument that parental rights should be established in law at the time of birth for any person that did not carry and give birth to that child."

As in, no argument from me. Those rights absolutely should be established in law.

So, if one partner of a lesbian couple provided the egg and another carried the child, there should be a way to record this AND the father who contributed the sperm. And if that father is not known, it should be left blank. But no person should be added into the 'father' field who did not contribute the sperm to create that child and the field should not be replaced by another field.

I just watched the first 7 minutes before giving up.
Those 7 minutes are exactly what I expected. It's just a smear job. Video segments of KJK are cut just in time to prevent providing more context, trying to only make the points he wants to make.

What annoyed me those most is that he could have actually made a really good video. For example he starts off with KJK will talk to anyone, and doesn't agree with "you shouldn't talk to xxxx". The purpose is to ( scary music fades in ) prove she's on the same team as ( scary music intensifies ) xxxx nasty people who no one should listen to. The implication is it makes her an xxxx too.
There's many parts where KJK is just sick of being labelled as an xxxx in order to make her shut up, and so she's like ( paraphrasing ) fuck it, call me whatever you want, I'm gonna keep doing this, you're not gonna shut me up. This is taken as admission of guilt. See the witch admits it!
What would be great here is for someone to examine what has happened in society to cause a woman fighting to "Let Women Speak" to end up in a position where only the already unpersoned dare speak in support of a topic she cares about. He could have examined what KJK wants, what her goals are. Why KJK feels that she needs to put all this effort in. What's driving KJK. How the media are treating KJK. Does the reporting reflect the whole truth or is reporting slanted? Is there a conflict between the rights of women and men who want to pretend to be women? All of this could have opened up some real debate, but as we all know there is no debate, so none of that was present in the small portion I watched.

One thing I always like to do when I watch/read from an unfamilar source is look at the rest of their content. If it's a news website and I just read an article after clicking on a link, I'll click the site's homepage. It's very easy to get a feel for their biases when you can see 20 headlines all at once. I clicked to see all videos by this guy. There's a few topics/people/organisations he's got a real hard on for, PragerU, Black Pigeon Speaks, GC women JKR etc.... All of whom of course he disagrees with. All the videos appear to be hatchet jobs where he goes on about how awful they all are, and from the looks of it no one from whatever he's moaning about ever gets interviewed or has any right of reply. It's just a one man bedroom smear factory. NEVER take a blacklight in that room.

If you want a baseline there a 4 video series about why the BBC is so transphobic. That should tell you all you need to know.

I agree that women shouldn't be forced to name a child's father. But there needs to be an open debate around how we record children's genetic origins.

All these are arguments for extra documents, or extra information, given the technological breakthroughs that we now have.

None of it means that Posie Parker is homophobic for talking about who goes on a birth certificate and who doesn't.

As I said, it's a public debate. One that we are all participating in on this thread.

I tend to mostly agree with you Clymene. However, if the information is not known, it needs to be left blank. Or if it has the potential to cause abuse.

Otherwise, I think that children deserve to have a record of their birth situation, however complex. And that parental responsibility is very much a complex issue in today's legal framework and perhaps that needs separate documentation.

As Bez says though, simply by disagreeing about what a birth certificate is for is not grounds to make dramatic and unfounded accusations of 'homophobia'. It is a knee jerk reaction based in prejudice and not in reality.