KJK and the neo-nazis video

If it is so essential for children to have details of their biological parents on their birth certificates, I assume this is still the case if the mother is raped?

What's that got to do with anything. We're talking about donor conceived children.

I asked this on the other thread but nobody has been able to answer.

Please can someone explain how it benefit's a child to have her mother's rapist recorded on the birth certificate?

I'm lesbian and in full agreement that a birth certificate belongs to the child and its first job is accuracy and reality, and children conceived by a donor have the right to know who that donor is and to have accuracy in their biological heritage that is a priority over the adults' wishes in the situation. The issue is parental responsibility, which is crucial, and it means as many pp have said that we need these days to have two certificates: one that gives the child's actual biological parentage, and the other that records adults with parental responsibility. In this sense yes, a gay couple are the child's parents and named as such, but the child's reality is not hidden under nice discretion to avoid upsetting adult feelings about parenting.

The birth certificate is the child's right. A baby is not a validation tool to be exploited for whatever agenda, they are a human being with their own rights. I'm not naive, I understand that not every birth certificate is a paragon of pure truth. However, for a parent to think the birth certificate is there to provide them with affirmation, completely ignoring the only one who matters in that situation, is a massive red flag. Sexuality has nothing to do with it before you dish out accusations, selfishness does.

How many lesbian mothers do you know who have opted to put their child's sperm donor on the child's birth certificate instead of their partner?

Like it or not lesbians have equal rights and are able to do exactly the same as straight couples who use a sperm donor.

IMO putting the child's needs and rights first is fundamental to parenting.

The child has the right to know where they have come from. If you watch programmes like Long lost family, you can see how important it is to know your parentage.
The birth certificate is for the child.
There are alternative certificates for same sex couples and adoptive parents. It is possible to have both.

It is also detrimental to lesbian rights.

Lets just be clear - you may presume to think you are speaking for lesbians but your are not.

The lesbians I know are all gender critical and anxious to preserve women's sex based rights.

A birth certificate reflect biological facts, not a fairy tale.

Can only assume the lesbians you are saying exist are some sub sect of Stonewall.

Please stop saying or even thinking you speak for lesbians.

Lesbians are rational human beings who know what a birth certificate is, and are also adult enough to work out parental rights whether with a female parnter or sperm donor, and are recorded elsewhere.

Guess that fits right into your narrative then. How convenient! 👍

Vexxing over the the rights of a child (most likely a very happy, well adjusted child) and dismissing the rights of the child's mother and her female partner is a bit too pro-life leaning for me.

It's centring children. If their rights to know who their biological parents are is difficult for lesbian parents then so be it. I've been really shocked how lesbian Twitter has turned into a parental rights echo chamber.

She centers women’s rights and that includes all biological females.

Tweeting that only biological parents should appear on a child's birth certificate is not centring women's rights, it is centring the rights of the child and the sperm donor.

It is also detrimental to lesbian rights.

Hi @Bosky yes indeed that was me being sarcaaaarstic. Lowest form of wit etc, I'll wear the cap, it fits nicely!

She centers women’s rights and that includes all biological females.

I once was told by a trans identified female that lesbian was second best to be a tif. I saw a big misogyny and homophobic sign lighting above this individuals head.

I can't watch this,I'll go down an eighties music rabbit hole and the next thing I know it'll be Wednesday.

"So she considers lesbians to be women then?"

BezMills - This baffled me too. A rhetorical question rather than sarcasm?

Earlier, you said:

"She definitely hates lesbians, so much that she gives them a mic, lets them speak and thanks them afterwards, at every one of her Let Women Speak events."

Which I am sure I read correctly as sarcasm.

It is the usual problem with communication in text without the benefit of non-verbal cues 🤷‍♀️

The poster was me and no I was not suggesting she should be praised. Thanks.

You missed the sarcasm.

The poster was suggesting KJK should be praised for allowing lesbians to speak at her events.

The alternative would be 'let straight women speak' which doesn't really work does it?

What a bizarre question…..

Surely only TRAs believe lesbians can be anyone other than female/women?

Are you seriously accusing KJK of being a TRA?

How utterly weird.

The verdict is in from....The LifeStyle Council - she's the best thing.

Bonus treat - a really young Paul Weller.

Nice try. But you still have zero proof op.

What are your thoughts however of the hundreds of videos on social media of transwomen thugs assaulting peaceful women? Of how they have punched pro-women male supports in the face? Of how they call lesbians bigots and scream for their cancellation for being same-sex attracted? How about when they get verbally violent and call for the death and decapitation of peaceful women who just want no penis in their previous safe spaces? Or are you just a massive, fascist hypocrite like the rest of them?

You are right. She is 'selling merchandise' like she is flogging cheap arsed products that people are only buying to support a 'charity'. It really defies logic that some people are so bereft of critical thinking that they simply cannot understand that people are purchasing products from her that they actually want. Let alone that they come back as repeat purchasers.

But it is such a superficial attack. Just like the hair and the nails and whatever.

That these posters cannot see that those ridiculous attacks blow away any argument they had defies belief. Not one poster on this thread who has made accusatory comments has discussed this video in any degree beyond 'it is excellent' and 'the receipts are in the video' etc. Nothing..... yet they believe so passionately in something that seems based purely on falsehoods from misogynist in this video .....

Well that's obviously your first mistake helle - using esoteric terms like 'woman' and 'full time career'. Some people simply don't understand that phrasing. It doesn't compute. Posie's got the hair and the nails, why isn't she in the kitchen making the sandwiches <stamps foot>.

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