KJK and the neo-nazis video

So, if "pedophiles weekly" wanted to do an interview with KJK, should she accept that, because "any port in a storm?"

If not, why not?

Are people here unable to distinguish between the right and the far right?

And are you really so taken in by KJK's rhetoric that you seriously can't see that association with racist, anti-women nutters might be a poor tactic, for women's rights activists?

There is a difference between the right wing and the far right.

Again, I am talking about extremists such as white supremacists, not the Daily Mail.

If only the “right-wing” media offers you a platform, are you supposed to decline the opportunity in the vague hope that the Guardian will be in touch any minute?

Most feminists would not go on a show with an actual white supremacist, given their views and politics are abhorrent.

These people are not "reputable journalists" give me strength!

"had dealings with"

😁

Maybe watch the video?

Yes, the guy who made it is a dick, no I don't agree with his conclusions or his politics, and yes he is just trying to smear KJK.

However she doesn't half make it easy for people like him to smear her, and us all by association - and that's the point.

It's ages since I saw it and I can't be arsed to watch it again but IIRC he lists example of extremists KJK has been on shows / had dealings with.

Not that any of it is new, it's all been shared here before, I expect.

I think you have a difficulty with projection here.

You have your deep abiding prejudice towards a person here, for personal reasons. It is laughable the lengths you go to.

Yup, totally a duck.

And while you are answering that, perhaps you need to also qualify and define what 'worked with' means for us all, posters and readers.

Because if you mean 'worked with' as in has campaigned with, that is significant. If you mean 'worked with' as in had someone take a selfie with or allowed to use the open mic at an event or did an interview with, then you are again using guilt by association to attempt to strengthen your incredibly weak argument.

By the standard of 'did an interview with' then no journalist of any reputation will be able to put into any box. Because they should be interviewing everyone with impartiality and have all sorts of people on their shows that will bring viewer numbers. If they do their job professionally, their political views should not come into it. Even if it was a 'far right' activist who was interviewing someone, why would any person with critical thinking believe that the person being interviewed and the interviewer would share a political view? The world is fucked if that is the premise for 'interviews' today.

So, tell us all, please what 'working with' means so we can work out whether or not your claims have any factual basis at all or is just the same old 'guilt by association' as usual.

You're seeing what you want to see, instead of what is plainly before you.

Yes, it's a narcissistic brag.

If it walks like a duck...

Would you like to qualify specifically who Kellie Jay Keen has 'worked' with that is 'far right'?

I love how you ignore the bulk of what I've said just to one fixate on a catchphrase. I think you miss the point completely.

She must have really said something that infuriated you. I mean seriously? Do you honestly think that this 'mantra' she repeats that she never loses is not a just a tongue in cheek confidence booster, but you believe it is a narcissistic bragging statement?

That says everything that any reader needs to know about how you interact with the world and how you interpret anything that she says.

she never loses I can't tell, are you quoting this with your tongue in cheek, or are you actually taken in by this narc nonsense?

It is true that she has gone on shows that are right wing, and for instance Julie Bindel has had article published by the Daily Mail

JFC, for the millionth time, this isn't about the right wing, as in the Tories.

This is about the far right as in white supremacists and extremists such as the US religious right or UK-based racist groups.

It's not about the Daily Mail, FFS.

These days, the word 'aligned' is my cue to switch off and not take another word that person says remotely seriously.

It's lazy, ideological left vs. right thinking, and yet another instance of TRAs' tedious strategy of forced teaming.

Seen it all before. Only nowadays, the proliferation of the scissors icon is interesting in these contexts. Apparently plenty of LGB people don't like the forced teaming, either.

MN knows this is defamatory false information with malicious intent.

it’s still up.

KJK - will be vindicated 💐 again.

I think you can see a difference here. MN FWR posters will argue their point, and leave the bunk posts up (to enpeaken les autres).

Whereas the TRA monitors will instead complain and get posts removed.

This.

I'm surprised that MN is letting some of the defamatory stuff on this thread stand, tbh, especially given that MN doesn't allow her a right of reply on this site, and that KJK has shown that she can and will successfully bring legal action against those who defame her. It's an interesting moderating decision given the amount of deletions that happen elsewhere on the board(s).

What's been debunked is that KJK organised the Nazi salute, or deliberately arranged for then to be there. Which was obviously not true.

You got this bit right. And then go on to talk utter bollocks.
KJK lets women speak. Sometimes the womans speaks a lot of sense, somtimes they ramble and you wonder why they are trying to say. KJK doesn't know what they are going to say, she just wants to let them have their say and get heard. KJK letting them speak doesn't mean she endorses what they say. She's literally just letting them speak.
And by exactly the same logic KJK using any platform available to her does not mean KJK agrees with or endorses every view expressed by anyone ever on that platform.
You sound like a flat earth conspiracy theorist with your CPAC money stuff. KJK just wants women's voices to be heard and she will go on media channels from across the whole political spectrum to get her message out. That doesn't mean she endorses any of their views, it just means that she's spreading her word far and wide.
There seems to be this view that she should only go on "approved" media outlets, and only talk with "approved" people. Only the "approved" media outlets don't approve of what she has to say, and don't want her to have any say at all. KJK rejects this and talks to whoever she likes. That's why we are talking about KJK and know who she is, because she's getting her message out. If she only did what others approved of we wouldn't be talking about her right now, because we wouldn't know who she was. You may as well be trying to tell her to shut the fuck up when you come out with the conspracy funding bollocks. And you know what she won't. KJK will keep spreading her message wherever she pleases to anyone who will listen as far and wide as she can on any platform that will have her regardless of percieved political leaning. KJK is getting heard by a huge number of people, some of who she agrees with and many of who she disagrees with, but she's getting heard by all of them. Trying to police who she speaks with and what audiences hear her views is utterly pointless because she doesn't give a fuck about crackpot conspiracy theorists, she's too busy getting her message out to everyone. She's very effective in speaking to as many people as possible. We know how effective she is by the amount of people trying to smear her, the dirty guilt by association tactics being used to try and shut her up. The clear panic in those who want her to shut her up. The attempts to link her to nazis etc.... all of this is just useful idiots panicing trying to get her to shut up. And she won't, and she never loses :)

I am happy to say that the OP and all who push the same outright lies have been owned by KJK.

Best outcome possible - and I hope it helps Moira Deeming and Angie Jones take down all those who smeared them and cost them so dearly.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for the disingenuous, pathetic, ignorant arses who gleefully spread the desperate Nazi lies to retract, apologise and learn from this….

KJK - vindicated 💐, along with all those in Australia who have been so viciously targeted. ☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️

KJK is marketing herself to the far right (e.g. by going on their shows - a verifiable fact)

Hard to believe that this is still being put forward as evidence.

It is true that she has gone on shows that are right wing, and for instance Julie Bindel has had article published by the Daily Mail.

This is because the left / liberal media is censoring women who speak up for women's sex based rights.

I suspect both KJK and JB would be only too glad to have the offer from other platforms / print media to talk / write about their views which each hold very strongly.

So yet again the problem is that the left / liberal platforms are not open to free speech, and specifically banning women who have their own opinions.

Strange isn't it that yet again when the real problem is partiarchal power, that this never gets called out. Somehow it is always women's fault.

Sad that on a forum like FWR, there are women who are saying women are the cause of their own downfall. Never ever look beyond the immediate superficial reality, of men controlling who is given a voice and who isn't.

Blame the victim.

OMG I never understood till now. Thanks for the enlightenment, Steph. Conclusive proof 😂