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KJK and the neo-nazis video

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niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 11:15

Just wondering if anyone here has seen this yet and what you think of it

Kellie-Jay & the Neo-Nazis

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/07/2023 17:25

SerafinasGoose · 15/07/2023 14:23

Classic projection.

Who: a) carried out experimental medical procedures on children; b) had an unaccountable fondness for shouting slogans and waving flags everywhere; c) were homophobic; d) attempted to stymie free speech because it threatened their ideology; e) entertained no debate or questioning; f) used government propaganda to enforce conformity with their ideology; g) threatened violence or death against those who refused to be silenced; h) turned on anyone, including allies, who fell any way short of 100% compliance?

Was it:

Feminists?
Nazis?
'Trans rights' activists?

QED.

i) Turned up where the people they were trying to erase were and stood outside with placards discouraging people from going in?

EpicChaos · 15/07/2023 17:22

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 11:49

As a feminist, i don't want to associate with neo nazis and i think that anyone who does isn't actually concerned with women's rights

  • Slow hand clap for @niandraladesand the OP there!

Such a feminist that she has to wait for a bloke to tell her what to think!
SMH!

Incidentally, you might wish to acquaint yourself with the work of Josef Mengele and then think abut which side of the argument it is that is insistent on carrying out dangerous, harmful, unnecessary and experimental surgery on youngsters and then be very ashamed of yourself!
You and your like disgust me and then for you to have the brass necked cheek and effrontery to refer to other people, particularly women in such a derogatory way is absolutely shameful!

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:20

eg an interesting discussion could have been a compare and contrast.

ie watch any of the recent LWS events (I mean listen to the women talking) and then try and link them to "nazis".

Which would be a much more valid source of the politics of KWS / KJK than speculative interpretation of someone standing in the same vicinity of right wing agitators.

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:16

I suspect the purpose of this thread was to get the title on FWR.

Not sure if everyone realises but google (and possibily others) instantly add FWR titles to their search engine.

So this means it will now appear when anyone searches KJK it will appear she is linked to Nazis - source MN FWR.

So no need to take part in a discussion. The purpose has been achieved.

If I thought it worthwhile I would report to MNHQ that this is a bad faith thread and an attempt to publicly smear a well known person.

Mochudubh · 15/07/2023 17:10

@TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening

Thanks. I didn't know Duthie Park even had a Speakers Corner.

Thanks also to OP as without this thread I wouldn't have known about this event. Keep up the good work 😁

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/07/2023 16:53

If nothing else this thread is a great showcase for highlighting the genuine parallels between the nazis & extreme transgenderism. Did the OP ever return to answer Serafina's excellent explanation of DARVO:

"Who: a) carried out experimental medical procedures on children; b) had an unaccountable fondness for shouting slogans and waving flags everywhere; c) were homophobic; d) attempted to stymie free speech because it threatened their ideology; e) entertained no debate or questioning; f) used government propaganda to enforce conformity with their ideology; g) threatened violence or death against those who refused to be silenced; h) turned on anyone, including allies, who fell any way short of 100% compliance?
Was it:
Feminists?
Nazis?
'Trans rights' activists?"

Damning isn't it?

TheGreatATuin · 15/07/2023 16:47

Ah, is it time for the bi-weekly 'everyone who disagrees with me is a nazi' mudslinging already?
I thought we just had one.
Interestingly, a lot more trans activists than Nazis have turned up to disrupt her events, so by the logic of the video that makes KJK is the most enthusiastic trans rights activist out there.
OP, if you genuinely want to make progress on this, we'll go a lot faster if you engage in good faith.
All of us on this board know exactly what KJK has said and not said. Some agree with her and like her. Some don't, but we all know that she's not a Nazi.

KJK and the neo-nazis video
SamphiretheTervosaurReturneth · 15/07/2023 16:42

I'm guessing that wasn't quite what OP expected.

Or maybe it was and they have enough 'look at the nasty wimmins' blather now!

Justnot · 15/07/2023 15:52

I thought we were meant to call people Nazis because it trivialises what the actual Nazis did? Obviously doesn’t apply to TRAs

FourTeaFallOut · 15/07/2023 15:35

It's always Nazis, isn't it? It just doesn't have any power anymore.

I wonder what the cis-nazis think about the colonisation of their identity by women rights campaigners who have the temerity to think you cannot morph from one sex to the other?

literalviolence · 15/07/2023 15:32

ScrollingLeaves · 15/07/2023 15:28

I got to 7 and 1/2 minutes in. He asked what is the single issue that she’d be happy to stand next to the devil for?

Then he answered, ‘Transphobia’.

Then he thought he was very clever by saying she has said herself she is happy to be called transphobic.

To prove this he showed a clip of her saying that as everything is now labelled transphobia she is happy to be called a transphobe ( in other words she is saying it is a meaningless accusation).

So he was twisting the meaning and it seemed time to stop watching for me. He was using a lot of video clips without given the context of what she’d said before, or after.

Her motivation is not transphobia.

She is standing against the attack on women’s rights, attack on the privacy and dignity of women, and the endangering of children’s lives and well being, by trans activists and queer theorists .

I'm not going to watch that video because from what people are saying, and OP themselves, it seems to be an anti-women hate video.

From what you're saying here, the video makers seem to have not understood the basics. People usually do not want to be actually transphobic, but as accusations of transphobia are more often than not used to describe situations which are not at all transphobic and simply a desire to keep men out of the spaces they should not be in, i.e. to defend the legally protected rights of women, she's happy to be called transphobic because she knows it is just desperate attempts by men's rights activists to circumvent the law and abuse women.

ScrollingLeaves · 15/07/2023 15:28

I got to 7 and 1/2 minutes in. He asked what is the single issue that she’d be happy to stand next to the devil for?

Then he answered, ‘Transphobia’.

Then he thought he was very clever by saying she has said herself she is happy to be called transphobic.

To prove this he showed a clip of her saying that as everything is now labelled transphobia she is happy to be called a transphobe ( in other words she is saying it is a meaningless accusation).

So he was twisting the meaning and it seemed time to stop watching for me. He was using a lot of video clips without given the context of what she’d said before, or after.

Her motivation is not transphobia.

She is standing against the attack on women’s rights, attack on the privacy and dignity of women, and the endangering of children’s lives and well being, by trans activists and queer theorists .

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 15/07/2023 15:15

Mochudubh · 15/07/2023 15:05

Can you say more about the Aberdeen event? I had a look on the FWS website but can only see previous meetings, not upcoming ones.

I have just bought their pin badges though..

Here you go.

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Kevinscousin · 15/07/2023 15:10

This shite again? Yawn! A wee gutsy wummin says No to the men and she's a Nazi ? Naw . Boring .
What's everyone having for their dinner?

Mochudubh · 15/07/2023 15:05

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 15/07/2023 14:16

I'll be needing one of those hoodies for Women Won't Wheesht in Aberdeen next Sunday.

Can you say more about the Aberdeen event? I had a look on the FWS website but can only see previous meetings, not upcoming ones.

I have just bought their pin badges though..

DevilinaCardigan · 15/07/2023 15:02

For the OP just a handy guide for next time.

KJK and the neo-nazis video
dimorphism · 15/07/2023 15:00

porridgecake · 15/07/2023 12:07

Yes. Sterilising autistic or gay children definitely reminds me of the nazi movement.
I think KJK is brave to stand up and speak against it.

THIS

FlirtsWithRhinos · 15/07/2023 14:51

SerafinasGoose · 15/07/2023 14:23

Classic projection.

Who: a) carried out experimental medical procedures on children; b) had an unaccountable fondness for shouting slogans and waving flags everywhere; c) were homophobic; d) attempted to stymie free speech because it threatened their ideology; e) entertained no debate or questioning; f) used government propaganda to enforce conformity with their ideology; g) threatened violence or death against those who refused to be silenced; h) turned on anyone, including allies, who fell any way short of 100% compliance?

Was it:

Feminists?
Nazis?
'Trans rights' activists?

QED.

👏👏👏

When will these oh-so-righteous "denouncers" and their followers realise that when they say "She says X but she really means Y" they are telling us "When someone says X and I assume they must really mean Y, the person who is actually linking X to Y isn't the person I accuse, it's me."

Datun · 15/07/2023 14:48

BordoisAgain · 15/07/2023 13:54

Apparently she sells merch and has bleached hair

Practically Hitler if you ask me

Jeez, not the hair again!

The Monroe-esque look really messes with them, doesn't it!

BaronMunchausen · 15/07/2023 14:43

Saying an idea is bad because someone bad agreed with it is childish.

Indeed. Yet this idiotic train of "thought" has become disturbingly commonplace.

Froodwithatowel · 15/07/2023 14:42

Interesting OP.

Can you explain the main principles of the neo nazi movement, their beliefs and aims, and how this lines up with women wanting the right to single sex spaces, child safeguarding and the right to homosexuality without harassment?

I can line up the Third Reich historical ones, obviously, but I'm assuming the neo nazis must have exceptionally different aims?

Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2023 14:39

And if you still need a clue it's not the first one!

ArcticSkewer · 15/07/2023 14:35

SerafinasGoose · 15/07/2023 14:23

Classic projection.

Who: a) carried out experimental medical procedures on children; b) had an unaccountable fondness for shouting slogans and waving flags everywhere; c) were homophobic; d) attempted to stymie free speech because it threatened their ideology; e) entertained no debate or questioning; f) used government propaganda to enforce conformity with their ideology; g) threatened violence or death against those who refused to be silenced; h) turned on anyone, including allies, who fell any way short of 100% compliance?

Was it:

Feminists?
Nazis?
'Trans rights' activists?

QED.

This.

Please choose the two correct answers.

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 15/07/2023 14:32

Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2023 14:28

Sorted.

Love it 😀

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