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KJK and the neo-nazis video

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niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 11:15

Just wondering if anyone here has seen this yet and what you think of it

Kellie-Jay & the Neo-Nazis

Content warning: Transphobia, homophobia, racism, antisemitism, suicide, sexual abuse, child sexual abuse, violence, abortion Videos I mentioned:The Witch Tr...

https://youtu.be/JBy93QX7ysE

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/07/2023 19:44

'Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous'

Silencing dissent
Medically experimenting on children
Getting women (and men) cancelled, sacked, in trouble for raising concerns about safeguarding children / women's rights
Encouraging the alienation of children from their families
Operating behind closed doors and away from democratic scrutiny

That all seems pretty fascistic to me 😑 Not to mention Orwell's famous comment:

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

Suzi89 · 15/07/2023 19:43

MowingTheTerf · 15/07/2023 11:55

@niandraladesand Yes links between transgenderism and Nazis are well documented. Most of the pioneering doctors and surgeons who invented sex reassignment surgery went on to become key doctors in the Nazi regime and helped carry out many of their experiments.

None of this is true. Hitler was homophobic & transphobic. Books about transgenderism were burned, gay people put in gas chambers. One of the things Hitler pushed against Jewish people was claiming that they were pro gay and transgenderism.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:41

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:39

The receipts are in the video🙂

and the video is two hours chicken

give me some motivation here. what bits spoke to you?

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:40

I just went and started playing that video. it's that boring droning bloke, I think someone tried pushing his stuff on here before. he's got a slightly weak 'f' when he speaks iirc

and then I noticed it's 2 hours. sweet suffering soccotash @niandraladesand , you're going to have to give me some enticement if I'm going to watch that

maybe give some time stamps of the bits that especially spoke to you? or some quotes or something.

Farmageddon · 15/07/2023 19:39

Can you point to her ACTUAL WORDS please OP which show that she is anti-semetic? Or is it just some video edited to show that she is somehow 'in cahoots' with neo-nazis...

Or is it just that you don't like her, what she stands for and are trying (and failing) to discredit her.

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:39

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:34

Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous

oh man

receipts please lovey

The receipts are in the video🙂

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BordoisAgain · 15/07/2023 19:36

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:35

what is it about KJK that allows her to live rent free in some people's heads? maybe it really is her hair

It's because she doesn't know her place

Clymene · 15/07/2023 19:35

I've watched most of her videos. I do t need to watch a bloke droning on for 2 hours telling me that I can't believe my own eyes.

BordoisAgain · 15/07/2023 19:35

Justnot · 15/07/2023 15:52

I thought we were meant to call people Nazis because it trivialises what the actual Nazis did? Obviously doesn’t apply to TRAs

TRAs are also trying to appropriate genocide and even the holocaust itself.

They really have no shame.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:35

what is it about KJK that allows her to live rent free in some people's heads? maybe it really is her hair

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:34

Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous

oh man

receipts please lovey

Clymene · 15/07/2023 19:33

@niandraladesand

If you wanted people to engage with the thread, you would have posted something more than a title, a link and a line asking what people thought. You plopped and ran.

If you're going to lie, at least make it a good one. Most of us are mothers and have stared down some absolute whoppers in our time.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 15/07/2023 19:33

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/07/2023 18:14

It is depressing that Mumsnet allow repeated threads about KJK while they deny her the privilege of being able to respond to the stream of slurs. Apparently the OP is a long standing mumsnetter (evidently with a name change). So while I understand that free speech is the basis of this board it just seems unfair that KJK is unable to respond to these regular tedious threads
Mind you - they do allow us all to demonstrate how hollow all these claims are. And to showcase more interesting discussions that call out the lie about "wrong on both sides". Spiked call this out very effectively here:

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Well worth a listen

enjoyable spiked podcast

I don't know who the young man in the red shirt is but he was very cogent on the subject of the out and out misogyny revealed by transactivism. I am very old and everyone looks young to me now, but it's always heartening to hear young people say sensible things.

niandraladesand · 15/07/2023 19:31

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:16

I suspect the purpose of this thread was to get the title on FWR.

Not sure if everyone realises but google (and possibily others) instantly add FWR titles to their search engine.

So this means it will now appear when anyone searches KJK it will appear she is linked to Nazis - source MN FWR.

So no need to take part in a discussion. The purpose has been achieved.

If I thought it worthwhile I would report to MNHQ that this is a bad faith thread and an attempt to publicly smear a well known person.

What do you think is in bad faith about this thread? I wanted opinions on the video which people aren't even bothering to watch before arguing and throwing insults at me. I haven't reported the personal attacks, but my post is being reported and my history on MN is being scrutinised, all because i disagree with the majority of FWR posters. And yet those same posters are always complaining about the other side not wanting to debate.

I haven't engaged with the thread much because I've been busy. It would never have occurred to me to make a thread just to get it into the search results - if engagement is what drives a higher search result then it isn't me doing that.

I remember when KJK was a controversial figure on here but now i see her talking points raised in almost every thread on FWR. Her ideology is fascistic and dangerous, and it's really depressing to see it being pushed on a forum that's supposedly feminist.

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Kevinscousin · 15/07/2023 19:16

Oh I think I'll go and order some stickers now you mention it lassies, as running low. Lol! And some stationary for the new term lol!

terryleather · 15/07/2023 19:06

AlisonDonut · 15/07/2023 14:29

My question is, why didn't the actual Antifa who were there one the day, actually challenge and protest the actual Nazis right in front of their faces?

Come now Alison, why would they want to do that when they could be punching a terf instead?

PurpleBugz · 15/07/2023 18:56

@Lettuces I actually watched it. I make a point of making my own mind up on issues and doing my own research. And I make a point of reading/watching things I see other ms telling me not to or see others dismissing. So having sat through it and having already done my research on the subject I echo @Myalternate

"Propaganda. Misleading, biased presentation.

Defamatory, slanderous and malicious."

KJK is a strong personality. I don't agree with everything she says but SHE IS NOT A NAZI. she's a woman's rights campaigner. She is not "anti-trans activist" she is for woman's and childrens rights.

Nazis went for the homosexuals and the autistics. As a pp said. Who is it doing that now? Hmmm 🤔

turbonerd · 15/07/2023 18:16

FourTeaFallOut · 15/07/2023 15:35

It's always Nazis, isn't it? It just doesn't have any power anymore.

I wonder what the cis-nazis think about the colonisation of their identity by women rights campaigners who have the temerity to think you cannot morph from one sex to the other?

yes. Won’t somebody think of the cis-nazis and how confused and vulnerable they probably are feeling now?
all of a sudden hordes of middle-aged women, and women of other ages, AND some trans-nazi men are invading their mental territory whilst ALL agreeing that it is impossible to change sex.

They must be distraught.

As a New trans-nazi myself I keep thinking that it is more like the soup-nazi in Seinfeld. But perhaps I am wrong.

Seinfeld Soup GIF
MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/07/2023 18:14

Justnot · 15/07/2023 18:05

yep get that - I was more saying To MNHQ they could at least comment in a less of the slinging round nazis way as it’s misinformation and boring

It is depressing that Mumsnet allow repeated threads about KJK while they deny her the privilege of being able to respond to the stream of slurs. Apparently the OP is a long standing mumsnetter (evidently with a name change). So while I understand that free speech is the basis of this board it just seems unfair that KJK is unable to respond to these regular tedious threads
Mind you - they do allow us all to demonstrate how hollow all these claims are. And to showcase more interesting discussions that call out the lie about "wrong on both sides". Spiked call this out very effectively here:

s

Well worth a listen

Huw Edwards and the hypocrisy of the elites | The spiked podcast

Paul Embery, Tom Slater and Fraser Myers discuss the ‘BBC presenter’ scandal, the emptiness of Keir Starmer and the violent misogyny of the trans movement.🖊...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1499s&v=T3ThEZHCseE

Justnot · 15/07/2023 18:05

yep get that - I was more saying To MNHQ they could at least comment in a less of the slinging round nazis way as it’s misinformation and boring

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:44

I meant I’ve been discussing the thread not an individual post

The thing is I have a sort of in principle negative reaction to reporting threads to MNHQ.

I was just putting forward what I thought might be the purpose of the thread.

But on the other had there are an awful lot of people who will find one tweet, one video, which sbustatiates their viewpoint, and think that by sharing it everyone else will be blown away and go oh yes, of course you are right, I never realised. And just dont seem to understand that because the rest of us, being pesky lets get to the bottom of this types, just think well this just doesn't match with the hundreds of other videos, tweets, whatever.

Justnot · 15/07/2023 17:39

I meant I’ve been discussing the thread not an individual post

Justnot · 15/07/2023 17:37

Iwantoretire - I have been having a chat with Becky from MNHQ about this post so think you should send your last but one post as it’s a good point they maybe haven’t thought of

IwantToRetire · 15/07/2023 17:37

TastesLikeStrawberriesOnASummerEvening · 15/07/2023 15:15

Here you go.

For all those who cant read text in graphics.

Here is the info in actual text ie words that are legible!!

And useful contact to group itself (maybe this should have its own thread closer to the day and I will add ie to events thread I started.

https://twitter.com/WWWheesht/status/1673665454445936643

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/07/2023 17:27

Datun · 15/07/2023 14:48

Jeez, not the hair again!

The Monroe-esque look really messes with them, doesn't it!

KJK is blonde. Germans were blonde. Nazis were Germans. Obvious, innit.

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