Labour canvasser today

Good on ya

All this has happened under the Tories though? I don't get why any rational voter would want to give a vote to such a 2 faced party who are dumping on women left right and centre.

And? Tories will tell you any lie to get your vote.

So you’ll vote to erase women’s rights and then worry about it? 🙄👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

In Spain the GE coming up next week will be very tricky for women and feminists. We can’t vote but Spanish friends are either pushing to vote for the left, or planning to spoil their vote . All we see from the left, despite reasonable economic policies, is the self identifiers being appointed as spokesperson on Feminism, rapists being given lighter sentences and sidelining of feminists on the other issues eg males having more right to assistance for “gender violence” with 10 men murdering women in 10 days, the priorities are very skewed indeed.

When Labour came round a few months ago I told them that I would never vote Labour as long while they were struggling to define what a woman was. To his credit, the canvasser said he had been asked this a lot and the local candidate was firmly in to TWANW camp but could appreciate why people felt they couldn't vote Labour. He looked pretty exasperated by the Labour leadership.

I must admit I was nervous about saying anything at first and the I thought 'sod it' they've knocked on my door and come to me. So glad I did!

I know this is not quite the same, but in the recent local elections I got a leaflet through my door from the Labour candidate. It gave his email address and invited people to contact him with any concerns or questions. So I did. I sent him a long email about my concerns about the proposed GRA. I talked about separate sex spaces, women's prisons, refuges, hospitals, changing rooms. I talked about women's sports and the danger to children. I mentioned how it was claimed that this never came up at the grass roots level and finally asked him the Staniland question. (OK it probably was a bit of a rant.) Guess what?

No reply.
So I guess that tells me everything I need to know about him.

Well done @SirSamVimesCityWatch definitely a hard boiled egg for you come the glorious 25th May. Some years ago I had a (middle aged male) Labour canvasser retreating from my door literally screaming TWAW when I (quietly) raised concerns about women being raped in prisons. I too am a single issue voter. I've spoiled a ballot with suffragette slogans and found an obscure centre left party to vote for (which got about 173 votes) but it isn't the same. I really really don't want to vote Tory but will I be driven to it?

Not to mention that anyone stupid enough to buy into this hogwash and call it 'inclusive' has no clue about equality or social justice and no interest in them as values. They merely identify as left. They are left in name only.

I'm a centre left voter, I'll wait for an actually leftist party.

But they have no motivation to listen to you once they are in power.

That would be like marrying a man who never does any housework thinking, ‘l’ll raise it with him once we are married’ and then being stunned and frustrated he still never does any housework.

This. And it will take decades to claw them back. If we ever do.

I'm afraid there is no doubt that if we do get a change of government, women's rights, gay rights, child safeguarding and democracy/transparency will be terminally fucked for decades.

I am not willing to do that to women and girls, or anyone else. Living in a country where the government believes in alternative realities created by a powerful and privileged few, policing and punishing the proles into silence and compliance? Hell to the no. If they're all in to this, then I cannot trust or waste time on anything else they might have to say.

There Isn’t enough resistance to stop it happening that’s the issue

And if you vote for it, it’s mandate for whatever they’ve proposed. Anything afterwards will do even less.

Sadly we’re looking at one of the few countries being pro women on this losing that and joining the rest NZ, Canada etc

There's a lot of resistance to this social change - I don't think it's a done deal. I think it's more important on a range of issues to get a change of government!

While I think this is a massive issue, I will still vote Labour. As is often said, you don't have to agree with everyone on everything and this is my only real point of disagreement with Labour policies.

Of course, if you feel you have to vote for them in the end, you can do that – it's a secret ballot.

What's important is that you tell them it's an issue that makes you much less likely to vote for them.

You do know that rolling back social change is impossible? Once this in kiss goodbye to single sex spaces. I won't risk voting Labour whilst they are wedded to this ideology.

Good luck after the GE

If they get mandate based on gender policies I doubt they’ll take much notice

They don’t already now when they want votes, I can’t see that changing when actually in power and have them

For what it's worth - I was also canvassed today, by our local Labour MP. I said that I was unhappy with Labour's apparent policy on self-ID, and she told me that self-ID was definitely not Labour policy, and (fairly strongly) that she was against it.

While I think this is a massive issue, I will still vote Labour. As is often said, you don't have to agree with everyone on everything and this is my only real point of disagreement with Labour policies. I will fight this corner when Labour are in power.

No one ever raises it is just no one should raise it, it makes us look bad

We’re in an absolute bind here for the GE. The seat is a Labour target as the current MP is one of the worst of the worst Tories, he’s notorious for his views. The Labour candidate is a TWAW type female however and it’s a two-way fight. I’m going to hold my nose and vote Labour I think, given that the Tory is a horror who must be taken down.

"Nobody ever raises it on the doorstop", they probably do believe this because it is only women who are raising it on the doorstep and as everyone knows we are invisible and inaudible.

Awful

Our Lesbian Labour counsellor had no idea what TWAW actually stood for!