UCI new policy

No. TW are men for racing but in recreational rides they’re classes as women again.

"These are supposedly intelligent people!"

I've had a certain song on earworm loop for a few years now...

Yippee!! Female riders will now take all the places in that race. And not one that used linguistic trickery of ‘but people use my pronouns’ so society sees me as a woman, therefore I am female!

I don’t have a shred of sympathy for any of these males. It they respected women and girls and respected sport they would never have sought to compete in female sporting events. But they did. They cannot try for sympathy for being strung along either. Why did they ever insist on forcing this issue in the first place?? Or are they so desperate to in forcing their own perceptions onto society that they fully believed those assuring them with falsehoods that they really were like all those other female athletes, and it was totally fair ! Gosh they were just better at it than those female athletes!

Ivy was a fucking university lecturer, and Bridges is or was in uni! These are supposedly intelligent people!

VI only wants to race “cis women”?

I wonder why 🤔

What a shame this didn't happen before. Some talented women have already given up competitive cycling.

Does this ruling apply to Breeze rides?

Ooh that’s going to go down like bag of sick isn’t it?

#Bikeporn?!

Haha! Lovely start to my day seeing that cheating demon seething! VI has stolen so many medals from women, even in fat arsed middle age.

I’ve run out of fucks for people like Ivy and Bridges.

VI isn’t happy either. Says only “cis men” and TW will be in the open category which means it’s not open at all. I think VI’s got a point. Open really just means men 😂

Sandy is STILL raging on Twitter. Can you imagine what’s she like in real life?

Yes, a ‘blanket exclusion’ means every single category is excluded which is not the case.

Stonewall lying as usual:

Liz Ward, director of programmes at Stonewall, the LGBTQ+ charity, said blanket exclusions on trans people were “unfair”

She said: “Trans people deserve the same opportunities as everyone else to enjoy the benefits of sport. Blanket exclusions on trans people participating are fundamentally unfair, which often causes trans people to stop playing the sports they love."

Of course they can still do sport - just not in the wrong sex category. FFS!

Bring it on! I think until someone does actually bring a legal challenge this is continue to cycle through the throes of ‘it isn’t fair discrimination’ etc.

Bring it on!

And cyclingmum, sandy, if you are still reading MN, we told you all this years ago before you flounced. The evidence you refused to believe is the evidence that has supported these decisions. You buried your head and flounced.

I hope she does bring a legal challenge.

Apparently looking at a legal challenge.

And railing that poor Emily wasn’t consulted before the rights of women were finally prioritised above the desires of males.

And still Sandy rages on Twitter.
It really is interesting how many women with similar personality traits have trans children.

In the Times they use the term "trans females", plenty of comments to point out this is wrong.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4665afca-225e-11ee-9b6f-7186ba87ded7?shareToken=798d88de5b9d6b38a4f17f85158a61b2

Forever confused by them claiming to want to be women considering how much they hate us

The findings were that with PB these male people still grew tall ( like those with CAIS ). They looked at when different hormones were given to ‘control’ height in the recommendations.

The authors keep referring to male and the effects of male puberty all the way through. So their use of transgender ‘girls’ is meaning those male people.

Many thanks, Helle. The paper doesn't seem to define its terms - are "transgender girls" biological males? Apologies if I missed something in the paper clarifying this.

USA Cycling following suit. I noticed this retweeted by Emily’s mum: https://twitter.com/runwayfour/status/1679945045930135555

“if my friends cant race in the elite races there's absolutely no reason for any of us to race in the amateur ones.” And here I thought just taking part was supposed to be sustaining enough for women. “y’all are fucking done, just wait. we will take this sport away from you.” More saying the quiet part out loud. They really can’t help themselves.

Because it is you biology, I went and retrieved it.

Trans girls grow tall: adult height is unaffected by GnRH analogue and estradiol treatment

Lidewij Sophia Boogers,
Chantal Maria Wiepjes, Daniel Tatting Klink,
Ilse Hellinga, Adrianus Sarinus Paulus van Trotsenburg, Martin den Heijer,
Sabine Elisabeth Hannema

published: 06 June 2022

https://academic.oup.com/jcem/advance-article/doi/10.1210/clinem/dgac349/6603101

Thanks, Helle - will keep a copy handy when you find it to show to my "gender-affirmation is a good thing" sister living in Portland, Oregon.