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The Flo App, what on earth is this!?

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Talliaaaaaa · 12/07/2023 12:03

I know this subject has been done to death. But what an earth is this?!
I use Flo to track my monthly cycle as many other women do, and I sometimes get daily insights that come up which can be interesting to read. The topic that came up and I clicked on it and it started with 'people with vaginas.' And it just enraged me.

We are now merely people with vaginas.
I understand that but everybody with a vulva identifies as female, but to take a female app and change the wording for a TINY minority so they feel comfortable, is so wrong. Why can't they say 'women and people with vaginas?' Why do we get taken out of the equation? Women are being so discredited and we are now seen as people with vaginas.

Another thing to boycott.

The Flo App, what on earth is this!?
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MerryMarigold · 14/07/2023 22:29

Talliaaaaaa · 12/07/2023 12:13

Has anyone got any better apps to log my cycle with that doesn't discredit women also?

I use one called 'my calendar'. It's very simple and has no unsolicited advice or articles AND no ads (whilst being free).

PermanentTemporary · 14/07/2023 21:52

@forwarder I started tracking mine because I was having a lot of casual sex and ideally preferred not to be menstruating on my hook-up dates (plus in the unlikely event of getting pregnant I wanted to be on it asap). My cycle is irregular enough that I thought an app might learn to predict it better than I could. It's not bad in fact, though getting less good as I I'm perimenopausal.

But yes, I don't pay for the premium service because of this stuff. I guess they still have my data.

dollybird · 14/07/2023 21:36

The one I use is called Period Tracker. Haven't noticed any of this nonsense on there.

ThomasinaLivesHere · 14/07/2023 21:11

Worse not worth

ThomasinaLivesHere · 14/07/2023 21:09

I deleted Flo for this reason. Also it’s amazing that they’ll advertise a “woman’s day sale” yet don’t mention the word at all in any of their articles etc. I don’t get it. Although what’s worth is medical sites doing it especially US ones.

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 17:58

I just put a P on the calendar for first day of my period. Well not any more as HRT so regular as clockwork. But that let me know roughly when to expect period, also why I might be getting tearful. Also interesting how my cycles got longer and shorter before, between, after pregnancies.

What extra does an app offer? And I wonder what all that data will be used for.

KitchenDancefloor · 14/07/2023 17:00

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

Peri symptoms form a pattern once you understand your cycle better. Good too know your it's not totally random and you're not losing your mind.
And who remembers their period dates? Not many women who also work, raise families, take on the mental load for elderly relatives, volunteer, try to make time for friends, etc. it's way easier to write it down on paper or digitally.

Talliaaaaaa · 14/07/2023 16:47

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

Otherwise I'd forget when I'm due my period. And I like to keep track as due to previous chemo I'm susceptible to early menopause so I like to have history of dates etc if things start going in that direction. :)

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JackRosenberg · 14/07/2023 16:23

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

My periods have been getting more irregular and various new symptoms coming and going (probably peri) so its useful to help keep an eye on when to expect one and what symptoms are hormonal or what might be something unrelated.

For example I developed heartburn for the first time in my life recently and after a few months realised it was always around ovulation time, so hormonal but wouldn't have been obvious to me as it wasn't during my period and I'm not ttc.

TrulyFlumptious · 14/07/2023 16:20

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

Not TTC or using rhythm method (DH has had the snip) but I struggle to remember exactly when I’m due on. Even more so now I have 2 small DC and a FT job. Pre-smartphones lots of women tracked their cycles in written diaries/calendars, this is just a progression of that.

Soubriquet · 14/07/2023 16:15

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

It keeps me on top of my cycle. I suffer from PPMD so when I start to get really irrational, it’s nice to know it’s because I’m due on and not because I’m in a cross mood. It just gives me that peace of mind knowing.

Forwarder · 14/07/2023 14:38

Can I ask why people (women!) are tracking their cycles on an app? TTC? Interest in the Rhythm method?

user123212 · 14/07/2023 10:16

There's WomanLog, for now. fingers crossed they don't change their name!

BlackForestCake · 13/07/2023 02:16

Thing is it would be easy in an app like this to have a button when you set it up for the first time, where you could choose between options like "I'm a woman" and "I don't believe I'm a woman but I want to track my periods" or whatever. And you could then see text that talks about women or about people with vaginas as you prefer. (Maybe you could even have an option whether you want blowjob advice or not).

But it has to be forced on everyone for some reason.

Mumtobe2023 · 12/07/2023 22:49

DuesToTheDirt · 12/07/2023 17:45

Why can't they say 'women and people with vaginas?'

The whole thing hacks me off. If you have a vagina, you are a woman. If you think otherwise you are deluded.

This!

Mumtobe2023 · 12/07/2023 20:14

DuesToTheDirt · 12/07/2023 17:45

Why can't they say 'women and people with vaginas?'

The whole thing hacks me off. If you have a vagina, you are a woman. If you think otherwise you are deluded.

This!

Ericaequites · 12/07/2023 20:04

I just draw frowny faces in my planner. When dating my last woman partner, I would draw faces and use initials so I could differentiate between our cycles. I don’t trust the web with that sort of info. People who menstruate are women, not people with vaginas.

KitchenDancefloor · 12/07/2023 19:32

I know! The poor kid was horrified the idea of tampons. She really didn't need the association of start periods = have to think about sex

Talliaaaaaa · 12/07/2023 19:08

KitchenDancefloor · 12/07/2023 17:53

I got rid of a tracking app (maybe Flo but can't be sure) when the helpful hint of the day was about how to give your boyfriend a good blow job.

It is an app that I downloaded for my 12 year old daughter who had just started her periods. The app age guideline was 12+.

I never got a response to my complaint.

Can we just let girls and women get on with looking after our bodies without centring men in the conversation and sexualising everything?

I just use the Apple health app now which is fuss free and doesn't try to sell me anything.

Oh my goodness I didn't realise it was advertised for 12+! That's horrific!

I frequently see 'sex tips' but tips for a bloody blow job? And they think it's okay for 12 year old children to see that? Jesus Christ.

Well I've cancelled my subscription and sent in a complaint on their social media and on their contact us form. Vile.

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Soubriquet · 12/07/2023 17:54

I deleted Clue for stuff like this. Really don’t want to have to change it again

KitchenDancefloor · 12/07/2023 17:53

I got rid of a tracking app (maybe Flo but can't be sure) when the helpful hint of the day was about how to give your boyfriend a good blow job.

It is an app that I downloaded for my 12 year old daughter who had just started her periods. The app age guideline was 12+.

I never got a response to my complaint.

Can we just let girls and women get on with looking after our bodies without centring men in the conversation and sexualising everything?

I just use the Apple health app now which is fuss free and doesn't try to sell me anything.

DuesToTheDirt · 12/07/2023 17:45

Why can't they say 'women and people with vaginas?'

The whole thing hacks me off. If you have a vagina, you are a woman. If you think otherwise you are deluded.

Talliaaaaaa · 12/07/2023 17:43

Well I've sent a formal complaint. Apparently someone will get back to me via email..

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Segat111 · 12/07/2023 17:32

"Doesn't shy away from mentioning women."

What a time to be alive.

Talliaaaaaa · 12/07/2023 17:10

Peony654 · 12/07/2023 17:03

Why not direct your anger to an actual issue.

Well, what I've posted is precisely part of the issue? Where do you suggest I direct my anger to?

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