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Transwoman cleared of threatening Joanna Cherry

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ArabeIIaScott · 12/07/2023 10:47

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d42d2a9c-1f41-11ee-97d4-77262736e260?shareToken=17827238e30d669bd67b20a14c32f2de

'A woman who posted an alleged threatening comment about the SNP MP Joanna Cherry online has been found not guilty.
Eve Shaw, also known Adam Shaw, was said to have made the comment about the MP for Edinburgh South West during a Twitter conversation with a friend.
Shaw, 28, replied to a news article post about Cherry with the comment “STG [swear to God] I am gonna pop Joanna Cherry” at 5.23pm on January 22 last year, Edinburgh sheriff court was told.'

Woman cleared of threatening Joanna Cherry in tweet

A woman who posted an alleged threatening comment about the SNP MP Joanna Cherry online has been found not guilty.Eve Shaw, also known Adam Shaw, was said to ha

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d42d2a9c-1f41-11ee-97d4-77262736e260?shareToken=17827238e30d669bd67b20a14c32f2de

OP posts:
ArabeIIaScott · 12/07/2023 15:46

By 'examine' you mean 'look at', Merlin?

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FrancescaContini · 12/07/2023 15:44

WinterTrees · 12/07/2023 11:16

Outrageous that both headlines call the person making sexually violent threats a woman.

Yes, totally outrageous.

BaronMunchausen · 12/07/2023 15:42

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:14

ok, another question is how can you tell? Do you examine every other woman in the toilets to try to tell if they are trans or not?

Afraid your delusion is showing here....

MrGHardy · 12/07/2023 15:41

personally, not that I think such online communications should receive any sort of punishment, considering what other people have been sanctioned over, this constitutes a massive bias in rulings over online communications.

SpicyMoth · 12/07/2023 15:33

"ok, another question is how can you tell? Do you examine every other woman in the toilets to try to tell if they are trans or not?"

I Can See Twd GIF by The Walking Dead
TheHappyCarrot · 12/07/2023 15:30

How can you tell if it's a trans woman?.....well, where to start 🤔

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 12/07/2023 15:29

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:14

ok, another question is how can you tell? Do you examine every other woman in the toilets to try to tell if they are trans or not?

ho can I tell the difference between men and women? Even if the man is wearing a blouse?

you are a silly sausage

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 12/07/2023 15:27

Random man threatens violence.

'who cares, anyway, what about this completely different man in a completely different situation that has nothing to do with this? Huh? Well?'

Utter irrelevant horseshit. By all means start a thread about GL and toilets. If anyone is remotely interested I'm sure they'll talk to you. This however is not about GL, and not about toilets. It's also, and this may come as a shock, not about you. HTH.

JanesLittleGirl · 12/07/2023 15:24

Oh Merlin, I have been known to suggest to people in the past that I couldn't understand things for them but in your case there is no need. You understand full well that TWs aren't women but you go on pretending that you don't.

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 15:20

And I'll add given the amount of men I've picked up over the years I've never found myself in bed with a woman because I couldn't tell the difference!

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 15:17

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:14

ok, another question is how can you tell? Do you examine every other woman in the toilets to try to tell if they are trans or not?

now you're just having a laugh.

I've been on the planet for fifty years. Filters and makeup may hide the difference online but in the real world you can tell.

Sit in town one Saturday afternoon and watch the world go by. You can tell the men from the women from the other end of the high street before they even come into focus.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:14

ok, another question is how can you tell? Do you examine every other woman in the toilets to try to tell if they are trans or not?

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 15:08

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:03

If I may ask, if you were using a woman's facility and a transwoman was there doing their own thing, would you be happy with a cis-man to then enter to cause a physical altercation with the transwoman?

(I know "cis" isn't a well-liked term here, but just to differentiate between trans and not-trans)

To put it another way, should there be designated "toilet police"?

.Oh love I'd be causing merry hell myself. I'm the toilet police for me

I'd be getting that man wrongly using the women's toilets out of there on my own without any assistance required. But if they still wouldn't go and i required help then I'm happy for another woman OR man (or a transwoman who has the decency to use the men's toilets but hears my calls for help) and comes to answer my calls for help.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/07/2023 15:07

Oh Merlin you are worth your weight in gold. Every time you post you do our job for us

Redshoeblueshoe · 12/07/2023 15:07

Transwomen are men as you well know Merlin.
No I am not happy with men in the women's toilets.
The only men I have seen in them are transwomen, so they should just fuck off and use the men's

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:05

"Have you seen GL"

If he started trouble with Izzard I know who my money would be on.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 15:03

If I may ask, if you were using a woman's facility and a transwoman was there doing their own thing, would you be happy with a cis-man to then enter to cause a physical altercation with the transwoman?

(I know "cis" isn't a well-liked term here, but just to differentiate between trans and not-trans)

To put it another way, should there be designated "toilet police"?

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 15:01

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 14:55

GL is a man, how is he going to carry out his threat unless he enters a woman's toilets himself?

Are all the women in there going to be ok with a man entering their toilets to cause trouble and potentially start a fight with a transwoman (GL seems to think transwomen are just going to let him drag them out)?

Again have you asked Graham? He is on here you know.

Are all the women in there going to be ok with a man entering their toilets to cause trouble and potentially start a fight with a transwoman man.

Fixed that. And yes if a man was in the women's toilets and I shouted for help if another man ran in to help remove the man pretending to be a woman that's fine

(GL seems to think transwomen are just going to let him drag them out)?

Have you seen GL he's got a better chance of pulling a man out of the loos than most women have. And if Graham doesn't have the strength to remove him what chance would a woman have if the man pretending to be a woman decided to do something typically male aimed at the woman. Like attack her, or push her into a stall or get in her face. Or just scare the shit out of her?

JeanRondeausMadHair · 12/07/2023 15:01

"Transwomen are women."

No. They are not.

RoseslnTheHospital · 12/07/2023 14:59

Ask GL. The varied individuals posting here are not his spokespeople. Report any threatening tweets. Hope the police investigate properly and proportionately. I don't condone violence or threats of violence. Ever, from anyone. How about you?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 14:58

So if GL, a man, is going around women's bathrooms looking for transwomen to drag out, who is going to drag GL out?

Or has GL received authorisation from every woman to be the women's toilets police?

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 14:55

GL is a man, how is he going to carry out his threat unless he enters a woman's toilets himself?

Are all the women in there going to be ok with a man entering their toilets to cause trouble and potentially start a fight with a transwoman (GL seems to think transwomen are just going to let him drag them out)?

BriocheForBreakfast · 12/07/2023 14:54

@merlinslostmarbles so he was threatening to pull a man out. Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 14:52

So he was threatening to pull a man out of the women's toilets.

And I don't know have you asked Graham.

MerlinsLostMarbles · 12/07/2023 14:51

Boiledbeetle · 12/07/2023 14:49

Only Graham is responsible for Grahams tweets.

If he did something wrong no doubt the police followed up your complaints about GL threatening a woman yes?

But do you mean a woman woman or a male woman?. I'm curious as to whether GL is just threatening to pull random women out of the women's toilets or to pull a man who shouldn't be in the women's toilet out of them.

The devil is in the detail.

Transwomen are women.

More to the point what is GL doing in woman's toilets in the first place?

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