Does anyone feel less inclined these days to wear makeup and skirts or dresses due to the focus on femininity as what defines woman?

No. Never! I like ultra feminine fashion and almost exclusively wear dresses and skirts, and am influenced a lot by fashion from bygone eras, 50s, 40s, even things like 16th century historical fashion. I wouldn't let this movement influence me at all. It is not femininity these men exude, but a pseudo caricature of femininity and it's obvious to everybody.

I find the added food stains makes it easier to remember what I had for lunch that day!

I’m totally rocking this look too. Often with added dinner down my jumper.

@Quietlyhere where is the dress on the left from? It’s lovely

Men with wigs and inapropriately amoung of make up is not feminine , it is the total of all times mockery of ALL THAT IS FEMININE . They are just mocking a true woman because a true natural woman has all her bits from nature they don't have. So what they are left with is to imitate prostitution looking individuals

I don't know what it's like these days, but when I used to go to lesbian bars in London the 90s make up was a definite no, and I often used to be the only woman there in a skirt. Strange that none of us lesbians wore make up to please ourselves then.... Even though women often say they aren't affected by social pressures, you can see the difference between different groups and times. I remember being incredulous in the 90s that some women in a sub-genre of porn got rid of all their pubic hair, but look where we are now.

I judge myself yes but I do not care if others do. The fact you think I look the way I do for anything other than myself is funny though.

I'm sometimes slightly self conscious in the fact I probably atm look like I am a 'stereotypical' ftm/nb -identified individual due to currently having short unnaturally coloured hair, piercings and a flat chest. Plus I live in alternative style/baggy clothes and have never really done dresses/skirts.

But in reality I am a GC woman whose hair is currently growing back out due to past chemo treatment, I had to have a double mastectomy to save my life and have had my piercings/bright hair for 20+ years.

Weirdly though I haven't been misgendered and only once asked my pronouns by a couple of young teen girls I was helping at work.

Hi Jigslaw, I agree with you. I was just answering the OPs question in the context of what I like and how I dress / make up for myself - purely a personal response that applies only to myself.

Eurgh how condescending.

No, because I am happy in makeup every day, dresses when not at gym. (Dresses at the gym would be tricky 😃)

But that’s just my thing, and I’m really sad about the gender stereotyping associated with this whole movement.

Yes, because you have internalised a set of social standards and judge yourself if you fall below them.
not blaming you for this - we all do it to some degree - but the vehement insistence you’re “doing it for you” looks a little silly.

I think your move towards casual attire / less make up is part of a general post pandemic shift personally and nothing to do with the current gender climate.

What about the women who do like it though? A woman is still a woman however they dress, sure if women feel pressured to do x, y and z then that's a shame, but it feels weird to be so judgemental of a look. There's nothing wrong with women owning their version of femininity, and there's nothing wrong with that being short hair and baggy clothes or make up and dresses.

I have also observed subtle changes in teenage fashion that to me seem to be a bit of a push-back against the ultra-feminine, artificial look - wide cargo pants, little make-up, crop tops

Aka late 90s and early 00s fashion which is back in currently.

No. Not at all.

I don't dress like an AGP, and an AGP doesn't dress like me.

No, not at all.

What I do find myself balking against, is the overdone "Love Island" version of femininity thats so prevalent at the moment - the excessive lashes, hair extensions, cheek fillers and overfilled lips, long painted nails and skimpy clothes....to me thats bordering on drag and is not something I like.

I think woman’s high heels serve the same effect as pointe shoes. It’s that appearance of balance and grace.

Height is definitely valued in males though as a physical trait.

No, I generally wear less makeup because I'm getting older and more comfortable in my own skin, not because of the growing trend of men pretending to be women.
But I like nice dresses and makeup, and men wearing them still look like men, from a mile off!

Goodness, not at all! I wear some makeup everyday, like dresses and dress up to go out. I’m not planning to change in any way and am happy with who I am. Nothing for me to prove here.

Not changed. I adore clothes and I've been falling out with (some) feminists all my life about it.

I totally mean this, I never thought of it like that good point

So why do so many women wear the same things. What’s the fashion industry about.

Regarding trans there’s an age in later life where both sexes can look fairly similar ( as do babies). It’s always the trans women that look like caricatures in wigs and make up though.
I agree with the poster that says drag is a piss take of women but there’s no equivalent for transmen. Where are all the beards, hairy chests and backs on transmen for example.

Transmen tend to look “unfeminine” and anti sexual judging by those pride photos. Contrast with the overly sexualised trans women.

So you perceive height as something to be valued