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Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/07/2023 21:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

"Inmates who pretended to be transitioning saw it as a way to lower their risk and to try to secure a place in the female prison estate, according to the evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper."

Who could possibly have thought that this would ever happen?

Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

Evidence unearthed by the prisoners’ newspaper Inside Time found inmates were pretending to change gender to access the female estate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners

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Whatwouldscullydo · 11/07/2023 06:57

Yet more contradictions then...another huge surprise

JacquelinePot · 11/07/2023 06:56

So rather than pretending to be women, men are pretending to be pretending to be women?

AlisonDonut · 11/07/2023 06:53

Didn't Professor Stephen Whittle say that they went for the prisons first because nobody cared about women in jail and if they could change minds there, they could change it anywhere?

Whatwouldscullydo · 11/07/2023 06:32

AlisonDonut · 11/07/2023 06:23

So some men might be faking it?

How would we ever know which ones are faking it and which ones aren't?

Well usually any type of criminal is deemed to be faking it. I'm.surprised anyone bothered to try and " train" the MOJ and the prison service and the police etc because whilst its acceptance without exception for us, or we are bigots. The second a trans person does anything wrong they get kicked out the trans category and are fakers. Because trans people allegedly are not like the rest of the population and dont have criminals and bad people walking amongst them.

AlisonDonut · 11/07/2023 06:23

So some men might be faking it?

How would we ever know which ones are faking it and which ones aren't?

Datun · 11/07/2023 05:57

NecessaryScene · 10/07/2023 22:00

Define "faking".

This.

No man is a woman. They're all faking it.

It's nonsensical enough that men are arguing amongst themselves about which one of the reasons they're pretending to be women, should be taken seriously.

It's absolutely risible that the authorities go along with it.

Why is a fetish any less deserving than homophobia, or a fear of other men? The women are merely a resource for all these men.

And anyone trying earnestly to decide which man gets to utilise them, agrees.

borntobequiet · 11/07/2023 05:35

I found this quote chilling:

Most denied that being transgender increased their risk of committing sexual offences, although one participant said that jealousy of a female partner’s femininity was a factor in motivating their sexual offence.

BettyFilous · 11/07/2023 05:25

Oh FFS! From the articke:

Most denied that being transgender increased their risk of committing sexual offences, although one participant said that jealousy of a female partner’s femininity was a factor in motivating their sexual offence.

😡

BettyFilous · 11/07/2023 05:19

Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 22:48

If you click on the link in the OP but switch to airplane mode as soon as the page starts to load it should load the whole article without asking you to subscribe/ limiting you to the first paragraph.

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I’m not quick enough on my phone so this never works for me. 😄

Splishsploshsplash · 11/07/2023 02:39

Neverinamonthofsundays · 11/07/2023 00:15

Google barbie kardashian for a shock if you want. Ireland and our fucking gender ID shit. Its diabolical.

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Yep. One of the many reasons I wrote that.

OzziePopPop · 11/07/2023 00:36

Amazing, how can people be so transphobic?

This never happened, it’s impossible…. Of course it is 😂

DiabolicalFinial · 11/07/2023 00:33

How very transphobic to think that POGD is real.
Prison Onset Gender Dysphoria is obviously a GC dogwhistle.

GoatsareGOAT · 11/07/2023 00:26

LoobiJee · 10/07/2023 22:50

This is what the prison doctors said in their evidence to a parliamentary committee inquiry getting on for ten years ago isn’t it?

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2015

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18973/html/#:~:text='The%20converse%20is%20the%20ever,%2C%20non%2Dsexual%2C%20offences.

But yep practicing my surprised face 🙄

Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons
Neverinamonthofsundays · 11/07/2023 00:15

Splishsploshsplash · 10/07/2023 23:38

Does anyone know the percentage of sex offenders amongst jailed men who say they are women? I suspect it’s disproportionately high.

Google barbie kardashian for a shock if you want. Ireland and our fucking gender ID shit. Its diabolical.

TheBiologyStupid · 11/07/2023 00:08

BettyFilous · 10/07/2023 22:44

Does anyone have a working archive link? The .ph version is a nope.

This one works for me: https://archive.ph/75Pyj

Welcome to nginx

https://archive.ph/75Pyj

Splishsploshsplash · 10/07/2023 23:38

Does anyone know the percentage of sex offenders amongst jailed men who say they are women? I suspect it’s disproportionately high.

JeanRondeausMadHair · 10/07/2023 23:15

In other news, fire hot and water wet.

yourhairiswinterfire · 10/07/2023 23:13

But...but...male criminals, being such good, honest fellas, would never ever lie and "put themselves through all of that" ('that' being declaring themselves women) just to try and gain access to women and their spaces, the TRAs promised!!

Neverinamonthofsundays · 10/07/2023 23:05

Jaw dropping news. Who could have ever thunk it.

HereForTheFreeLunch · 10/07/2023 23:03

Naah, this never happens. Fake news.

CandyLeBonBon · 10/07/2023 22:52

Who knew!? 🙄😜😱🧐

Theimpossiblegirl · 10/07/2023 22:51

Well that's a surprise.
Not exactly stunning and brave after all.

Boiledbeetle · 10/07/2023 22:51

@FantasticElasticBand it's such surprising news! I found out on Twitter and fainted for a whole two hours as there was no one to revive me! You're lucky i was passing!

LoobiJee · 10/07/2023 22:50

ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/07/2023 21:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

"Inmates who pretended to be transitioning saw it as a way to lower their risk and to try to secure a place in the female prison estate, according to the evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper."

Who could possibly have thought that this would ever happen?

This is what the prison doctors said in their evidence to a parliamentary committee inquiry getting on for ten years ago isn’t it?

Littlesprouts · 10/07/2023 22:50

evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper

I can't read the link but you can read more there - insidetime.org/some-trans-prisoners-are-faking-it-moj-study-finds/

I thought it might be some kind of sector press but describes itself as for prisoners and detainees. Really interesting this should be looked at so thoroughly by such a niche publication, rather than anything mainstream that could be accused of having an agenda on any side.