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Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

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ItsFunToBeAVampire · 10/07/2023 21:36

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners/

"Inmates who pretended to be transitioning saw it as a way to lower their risk and to try to secure a place in the female prison estate, according to the evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper."

Who could possibly have thought that this would ever happen?

Male sex offenders ‘faking trans identities’ to move to women’s prisons

Evidence unearthed by the prisoners’ newspaper Inside Time found inmates were pretending to change gender to access the female estate

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/07/10/jailed-male-sex-offenders-fake-trans-women-prisoners

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ChiefClerkDrumknott · 13/07/2023 01:01

@Datun ’'Unearthed' 🤣’
I’m shocked and appalled! Can’t believe it

getafringenotbotox · 11/07/2023 19:34

And no one has been able to prove this is what men will do and are doing to access women's spaces.

I mean we know it's happening but you can't prove who is genuine and who isn't.

It's all a joke.

I've had a shit day in work. Mainly due to creatures with penises.

This doesn't surprise me.

Datdamndamp · 11/07/2023 19:04

I am just pretending to be surprised.

In prisons there is a lot more information about someone's past, risk and behaviour to make decisions and risk assessments a out moving estate. None of that is available around admitting transwomen to women's refuges, hostels etc. The idea that you could demonstrate it in prison and then roll out to all public services is risible.

Froodwithatowel · 11/07/2023 18:44

Apollo441 · 11/07/2023 16:31

Society seems to be moving from a collective viewpoint to the rights of the individual trumps all. So it doesn't matter if 99% of sexual offences are committed by one group (i'll let you guess which) you cannot exclude members of that group for the safety of the other group. Or at least that's what they are pushing for. It is insane.

I'd be more sympathetic if it was moving to the rights of ALL individuals trump everything else.

But it doesn't. Because these 'rights' don't require cessation of anything, they require service from others. A right in these terms requires someone to provide and fulfil the right. In this case, the individual rights require someone else being compelled to be selfless and obedient to give the individual whatever they want. It's like the thing of to have a right to sex requires someone compelled to give that person sex whether they wish to or not.

This is a world view of society being split into the served and the service providers. The entitled and the service humans. The mummies and the spoiled brats.

Try telling someone into critical theory that you plan to choose your own identity and labels, and require your own access needs to be met in a way that would displease a male transitioner and you very quickly discover that these are not universal rights, but special privileges to be accorded to a very specific group at everyone else's expense. And no. Even if I was silly enough to go along with it, it should be very obvious that this is never going to end well for anyone.

SpicyMoth · 11/07/2023 18:26

Who'da thunkit

Surprised Meme GIF
Apollo441 · 11/07/2023 16:31

Society seems to be moving from a collective viewpoint to the rights of the individual trumps all. So it doesn't matter if 99% of sexual offences are committed by one group (i'll let you guess which) you cannot exclude members of that group for the safety of the other group. Or at least that's what they are pushing for. It is insane.

MowingTheTerf · 11/07/2023 16:14

Convicted liars lie? Never saw that coming.

Datun · 11/07/2023 13:42

ChiefClerkDrumknott · 11/07/2023 09:52

"Inmates who pretended to be transitioning saw it as a way to lower their risk and to try to secure a place in the female prison estate, according to the evidence unearthed by Inside Time, the prisoners’ newspaper."
^^

'Unearthed' 🤣

Froodwithatowel · 11/07/2023 13:27

HandShoe · 11/07/2023 13:04

It’s ok this never happens…oh wait it does apparently..

No it doesn't!

And it didn't happen that time either.

Or that one.

That wasn't a real one.

Yes, but you can't deprive men of access to non consenting female bodies on the grounds that an occasional man (with a criminal conviction) will turn out to be Not Very Kind now can you? The cruelty!

SirChenjins · 11/07/2023 13:25

Chersfrozenface · 11/07/2023 12:27

It has blinds.

I spent far too much time looking at the specs of Niesmann+Bischoff motorhomes.

Each to their own, eh?

Aye, but it looks better with a wee set of tartan curtains over the blinds. Hame sweet hame.

HandShoe · 11/07/2023 13:04

It’s ok this never happens…oh wait it does apparently..

RealFeminist · 11/07/2023 12:58

SORRY - NO ONE SAY BLIND - AS ITS A LIVE CASE WE COULD NAE POSSIBLY COMMENT

RealFeminist · 11/07/2023 12:57

Chersfrozenface · 11/07/2023 12:27

It has blinds.

I spent far too much time looking at the specs of Niesmann+Bischoff motorhomes.

Each to their own, eh?

NONE SAE BLIND

Madamecastafiore · 11/07/2023 12:44

Join the queue for physical castration and come right in. I wonder how many of them would be willing to part with their members for a golden ticket??

Chersfrozenface · 11/07/2023 12:27

SirChenjins · 11/07/2023 11:05

We telt ya Nicola!! You were too busy choosing curtains for your van to listen though.

It has blinds.

I spent far too much time looking at the specs of Niesmann+Bischoff motorhomes.

Each to their own, eh?

Boiledbeetle · 11/07/2023 11:06

I think someone had better get @RealFeminist a large drink and a slice of cake. It's going to be a rough day for her!

SirChenjins · 11/07/2023 11:05

We telt ya Nicola!! You were too busy choosing curtains for your van to listen though.

RealFeminist · 11/07/2023 11:04

WHY DID NAEBDY TELL ME

Boiledbeetle · 11/07/2023 11:02

RealFeminist · 11/07/2023 10:42

CANNAE BELEIVE IT

We tried to tell you Nicola 😶

anythinginapinch · 11/07/2023 10:59

Separating the deluded from the lying ... almost impossible!

SirChenjins · 11/07/2023 10:50

What?!

TheBiologyStupid · 11/07/2023 10:43

It’s like witnessing a car fatal crash and then watching as the garage mechanic who cut the brake cable is given a pay rise and a medal of honour.

There's a new thread about a GP getting a very similar award, I believe...!

RealFeminist · 11/07/2023 10:42

CANNAE BELEIVE IT

SirChenjins · 11/07/2023 10:02

How transphobic you are OP. Trans rights (as everyone knows) are human rights - which means we should ignore the rights of female humans and focus solely on giving male humans more rights than this non-oppressed group have ever had in the history of all time.

It’s like witnessing a car fatal crash and then watching as the garage mechanic who cut the brake cable is given a pay rise and a medal of honour.

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