Little OJ citing those brave suffragettes

exactly
the suffragettes were extremely disruptive and violent and very unpopular as a result- the entire movement for women's suffrage used a variety of methods including mass, peaceful protest
I don't think we've yet seen any climate activism that has approached what the suffragettes were driven to, although as a PP has said, they had no vote so limited options.
I actually think he's right that if we are fortunate enough to survive the climate crisis people will look back on ER and JSO much as we now look back on the suffragettes.
He's still wrong about women's rights of course but that's by the by

In contrast, JSO et al. aren't so much trying to use their own vote or even influence the way others vote - a lot of them have stated that they want to directly pressure government actors into policy changes.

Which is a hair's breath away from the classic definition of terrorism. It's certainly anti-democratic. Exactly the way political pressure groups want to operate these days, though.

I think a huge differernce between the suffragettes and JSO is the former had a very specific policy they wanted to see enacted.

JSO doesn't, really, not one that is politically possible or meaningful.

How to get policies in place, on a worldwide scale, without crashing the global economy or fucking over large numbers of people, or fomenting a revolution. That's the problem, and they have no solutions.

Good I’ll keep making them then :)

Well not just that but those women were also excluded from the suffrage - hence the very term for them! If you're not allowed to vote you can't use your vote to advocate for change, and your only remaining arena are the streets.

In contrast, JSO et al. aren't so much trying to use their own vote or even influence the way others vote - a lot of them have stated that they want to directly pressure government actors into policy changes.

Does he not see his hypocrisy?

Of course he does; it's a feature, not a bug. He could have chosen any other group but he knows this will rile feminists up and get him clicks.

He doesn't care whether the attention comes from love or hate, as long as people stay engaged he makes money.

I'm not sure of your point?

JK Rowling is considerably richer and also funds causes and proects which are important to her.

I've got to the point where Owen could be saying something eminently sensible and worthy of listening to but all I hear when he opens his mouth these days is "blaaaaaaaaaaaaaah"

Of course he lives by his principles. Those principles earn him his living!

I just know people who are good at making money like making money. It’s their thing and they’re passion. Maybe the politics align with his, maybe he is a great bloke, but he’ll be making money all the same.

Yes, the misogyny accusations sting him...and he always attempts a compensatory move in order to negate that.

He’s trying to show he doesn’t have a woman problem by referencing the suffragettes. They’re from about a century ago so their demands and opinions won’t inconvenience him in 2023 luckily for him.

He can live by his principles and leave the rest of us to our world views.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/left-wing-extremism-linked-to-psychopathy-narcissism-study/

He now owns Forest Green Rovers and it is the first Vegan football club. approve of JSO or not, he does aim to live by his principles.

Matthew Goodwin described these people in his recent tweets.

To be fair, Dale Vince does not come from wealth. He left school at 15 and was living on peace camps and as a part of the 'peace convoy' in the early 1980's - at the same time that I was.

Thanks Baroness

Hahahaha! Bloody hell!

It’s not a secret. He openly talks about it. His name is Dale Vince.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12256025/amp/Labour-Just-Stop-Oil-donor-defends-climate-disruption-political-donations.html

Call me a cynic but I think if you are entrepreneurial and have made your money being money savvy there will be a financial benefit if you are funding political parties and pressure groups.

I've not posted a YouTube link so I hope this works for those who can't see twitter

It's a false analogy. The correct analogy would be to list the bad things the oil industry have done, such as repeatedly spilling oil into the ocean, as justification for protesting the oil industry.

The king of exaggeration.

Even Greta deleted her tweet about the world ending in ten years or 2025 or whatever it was.

There are issues with the climate, it's been a long term issue, thankfully something's did not come to pass.

I would take people more seriously, about it being an emergency, if they closed up their big houses, moved to four bedroom standard homes and quit flying in private jets whilst lecturing and taxing the poor. 🤔

Its a video clip of loj comparing jso to the suffragettes saying how wonderful the suffragettes were when we look back but how hated at the time