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What have you learned from the trans takeover

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Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 17:28

what have you learned about
Your own political beliefs

has this issue made you think about others differently.

has this made you take a different look at other issues.

for me I now would say I have friends that are feminists 🤭
and I also started going to church and I never thought that would happen in my view we need religion a lot of the activists say they are secular but they are clearly in a cult religion

oh and I speak to my son about the importance of free speech more more than I ever thought I would need to

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LonginesPrime · 08/07/2023 18:55

It has made me realise how utterly blind most people are to really freaking obvious misogyny.

The sheer amount of sexism that's been reframed as empowering (men) is just insane.

I've also learned how history simply repeats itself and that the same tactics get used by misogynists time and time again, decade after decade.

And that many women are incredibly susceptible to emotional manipulation and often harbour a dangerous undercurrent of internalised misogyny that leads them to undermine their own interests without ever noticing.

nauticant · 08/07/2023 18:48

It doesn't take a plan worked out beforehand to overwhelm society with a toxic ideology. It can happen organically if the starting conditions are amenable and then lots of different people with different agendas exploit the situation for their own benefits.

NecessaryScene · 08/07/2023 18:44

I think I understand what people are capable of more, and hence can understand how various bits of history happened better. Some things always seemed a bit unbelievable - less so now.

nauticant · 08/07/2023 18:43

One thing I've learned is that scandals aren't necessarily hidden away and are then revealed to the public in a big pulling-back-the-curtain scene.

Sometimes scandals continue while more and more people become aware, and look on helplessly, and even though the clamour rises the scandal can continue on largely unhindered.

terryleather · 08/07/2023 18:33

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/07/2023 17:50

turns out I really value having the freedom to make up my own mind and speak and behave accordingly.

Radio 4 is not as good as I thought it was. I don’t know if they’ve changed or I have. Both I think

being unthinkingly left wing does not make you a good person. In fact it might make you a fucking lunatic

no good ever comes from pretending things that aren’t true

Bernard, are you me...? 😆

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/07/2023 17:50

turns out I really value having the freedom to make up my own mind and speak and behave accordingly.

Radio 4 is not as good as I thought it was. I don’t know if they’ve changed or I have. Both I think

being unthinkingly left wing does not make you a good person. In fact it might make you a fucking lunatic

no good ever comes from pretending things that aren’t true

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/07/2023 17:45

I really really value freedom of speech.

FourTeaFallOut · 08/07/2023 17:35

I won't be going to church, for a start. Whenever anybody describes someone as a Nazi, I need to know exactly how they are using that word.
I am less fussy about where people are saying things and more interested in what they are saying.

Basically, I've had my arse handed to me for lazily leaning to the left without interrogating the landscape better. If it weren't for the I am Spartacus thread however many years ago now, it could have been years more before I looked up from the daily grind to see the new order.

Thatgirl1981 · 08/07/2023 17:30

One more

I will not be voting for anyone time soon when you scratch the surface bar and few on the right and a few on the left they all believe the same

the conservatives are not conservatives

labour are not for the working class
the lib Dems are not liberal
the snp are not nationalists and sinn feinn was at the coronation 🤷🏿‍♂️they really are all just about power this if I can just get my party in charge is just for the birds the country is runs by activists and civil servants

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