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AnOrange · 08/07/2023 08:57

It’s not a new point. Christians have been discussing this sort of thing for decades- that language which presents God merely as male is reductive and limited and reflects the patriarchal societies that Christianity grew out of more than it reflects the nature of God. I wouldn’t change the wording of the prayer but I’m pleased to see church leaders acknowledging that language matters.

sashagabadon · 08/07/2023 08:50

It is ridiculous. We also have the Hail Mary which celebrates mothers. They are equal prayers.

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SerendipityJane · 08/07/2023 08:45

Being honest, the genders are the least offensive part of the Bible.

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Froodwithatowel · 08/07/2023 08:17

So we're about to try to redefine Christianity and exclude all Christians from it who believe in biological sex? 😂Along with womanhood, homosexuality, stuff like that?

I'll wait for the inevitable decision that 'person' and 'human' now has 'evolved' to mean 'an unconditional believer in our faith trumping reality and everything else' and excluding all from it who believe in biological sex. It'll come.

Croneofakind · 08/07/2023 07:41

You are all so cynical! The archbishop is a man of God genderless worshiper of the genderless creator. Maybe God came to the archbishop in the wilderness and said that after two thousand years of hating on women they feel non-binary these days.

PatatiPatatras · 08/07/2023 07:19

Just sounds like the church has never really known what "fairness" looks like. Feels good to exclude women, yeah let's go for that. Feels good to treat non- westerners as subpar, yeah let's go for that. Feels good to elevate other men above all the categories we've treated badly already, yeah let's go for that.

Babewhat · 08/07/2023 05:39

As an atheist who has a degree in theology, I think it’s lovely that the small percentage of men who might be offended by this are being taken care of. Im convinced that this movement will both illuminate and solve all the historical issues that women of faith have suffered throughout both biblical history and canon.

in general, I think any genuine outreach for inclusivity is a good one. But FFS, really?

MysteriesOfTheOrganism · 08/07/2023 05:37

Our transcendent thingummy, who is historically a storm god of a patriarchal Middle Eastern tribe, and who may or may not exist....

mach2 · 08/07/2023 05:23

Our Them they, who art in heaven...

EdithStourton · 07/07/2023 19:57

Honestly, the continuous quest to make itself 'relevant' is really not helping the CofE.

I went to a very old-fashioned c of E service recently with a baptist and a presbyterian. They both loved it.

Toseland · 07/07/2023 19:54

Ah yes, now the very special 0.2% of the population don't like it let's change it - fuck the 2000 years of history!

eatfigs · 07/07/2023 19:52

If they want to change it to "Our Mother" and get rid of all the other patriarchal nonsense in their religion as well, that's fine by me!

WhiteFire · 07/07/2023 19:48

The only conclusion I can come to is that these individuals have never truly read and studied the Bible. I would question their faith but that is between them and God.