Radio 4. Right now. Is freaking me out.

I feel well and truly diddled by radio 4 because I'd always planned on spending my retirement listening to intelligent and interesting radio programmes on it, now I can't, and there's no other alternative.

I don't listen any more either, it's become an echo chamber of wokeness.

I was going to write a reply but it would basically be this!

Beggars belief and I expect the NHS paid for said unnecessary double mastectomy?
We as a society have been trapped inside the pages of 'The Emperor's new clothes' for several years now but still so many people refuse read to the end or to take on board the essential message about power dynamics and mass delusion. The King couldn't be contradicted and the 'herd mentality' in refusing to speak out the truth for fear of being censored or worse. It took a child to state the obvious: 'The King has no clothes'.
They are now coming for the children too so they can't speak out.
I hope that one day soon sanity on these issues will prevail and freedom of thought and speech will be prioritised once again.

If I posted something like this about the Guardian and its indebtedness to certain other nation states, you would tell me to put my tinfoil hat on.

Back to the topic; the subject of the show that so infuriated the OP had an elective double mastectomy, then expressed surprise at being unable to breastfeed. Intelligent and pro-active journalism would be asking how the fuck healthy organs can be removed from people who cannot or will not understand the irreversible physical consequences, and what has happened to medical ethics. But you won't find that kind of grown-up reporting by the BBC or Guardian these days sadly.

’ve already apologised for that. so move on. You’re not exactly showing the best side of yourself right now, so we all occasionally get the tone wrong, don’t we?

Ho hum.

Good! I’m happy for you. 😊

Umm.. ok

I’m not though.

You seem really angry.

I’m not angry at all.

Your post was referring to me so I picked up on it.

I’ve already apologised for that. so move on. You’re not exactly showing the best side of yourself right now, so we all occasionally get the tone wrong, don’t we?

The tweet ref was a way of saying ‘it doesn’t matter if it was a short post, or a character limited tweet, or a haiku, if still needs to be factually accurate because truth matters’.

I don’t get why you’re so angry at me. Do you need some flowers? 💐

Everyone seems to be forgetting about validation. If trans people were just living their own lives, they wouldn’t be demanding compulsory pronoun use, and the demand that the words that come out of our mouths about their sex don’t match the truth in our heads about who we are looking at. They are forcing everyone else to participate in their fantasy. It’s particularly egregious when this is pushed on young children who don’t have the maturity, life experience and reasoning skills to understand, but instinctively know a male and a female through all the instinctive knowledge with which evolution has pre programmed our brains. It’s also egregious and abusive in the courtroom, where female victims are forced to address their male attackers with female pronouns - essentially forced by the court to lie under oath.

Yep I think that is why I no longer tune in. They are trying to induce mass depression and guilt in a listenership who used to switch on for comfort and familiarity (Archers, Sailing By, Sorry I Haven't Got A Clue, Just A Minute etc)

Anyway, listener figures for radio 4 are falling off a cliff. It's toast.

*Why on earth are people so personally invested in the way other people choose to live? It’s no-one’s business except those involved.

Except that it absolutely is everyone's business when trans identifying people want to access to opposite sex spaces and services, to appropriate sex specific language, to breastfeed infants without adequate safety data or safeguarding, to tell impressionable children and teens they could be 'born in the wrong body'.

I can't believe this still needs to be pointed out. Are people living under rocks?

I was taking the piss out of someone

How lovely for us that you take the time.

Have you just joined from Twitter? Going by the tweet mention.

Totally agree. I heard an opinion on a radio programme that I really disagreed with. So I stopped listening to radio. That will show them.

I lose track of who's what in these discussions, so this is a woman living as a man (with another man or another woman living as I don't know what) who actually had a baby I assume by stopping taking the hormones that helped her live as a man (I assume she hadn't had physical alterations that would make it virtually impossible). But she still considers herself a man, but just a man that can have babies (with a bit of help from hormones). I guess if she really feels she is a man I sort of get what she is saying, convoluted though it is. But I would assume the number of people who would really think and live like that would be vanishingly small. And none of it makes her a biological male, just in her mind she's a man and she's reconciling the ability to have babies with her feelings of being male.

Agreed. I refer you to the most read paper: the Mail

I used to be an avid fan, I can't deal with it anymore either I feel like I am being gaslighted and I had enough of that with my ex thanks.

Is he the guy that bashed the fox?

Pravda /the truth...had a wide readership in soviet society.

It doesn't mean anything.

I don’t really see why you’re getting all upset. I was taking the piss out of someone because they presented a fallacious argument. I apologised because it wasn’t kind. I also refuted the notion that someone had about me thinking only thick people read the right wing press by saying I personally know many clever, well-educated people that read it. And now you’re suggesting I have some personal issue with people of lesser education? Not at all. I think you might be projecting. In the course of my job, I spend lots of time with people of all walks of life. Usually we rub along just fine, thanks for asking.

I did have to tell someone to fuck off when they started telling me how my sort had ruined the country, but it was only the once.

Is that you, Jolyon? I'm surprised you aren't having to tell people to fuck off several times a day, frankly.

Exactly this.