Male and Gender Critical

It all depends on what you think Pride is for. If you think that it is for anybody who isn't heteronormative (I think that's the right word) then it would include asexual people.

Why would you BE at PRIDE if you were not interested in sex or sexualities?

It's like going to a train station and hanging around if you don't want to catch a train and aren't interested in trains. And if you take a camera and clipboard and tick a box every time a train goes through people will think you are interested in trains.

It makes no sense.

The point is that it doesn't really matter what you intend or don't intend, or if you have no intention at all ( which I doubt very much) when it coes to selecting what to wear; the point is that you cannot control the reception.

It is extremely naive to imagine that people don't make judgements about others based on any number of factors; clothing and presentation being one of them But you know that anyway.

I've no idea what individual women intend? How would I know?

I think many people, especially of more youthful/reproductive ages are interested in appearing as attractive as possible - wanting to attract positive attention; have people say nice or flattering things about their clothes, or their figure. They tend to know what flatters them and wear clothes which highlight their best bits, and so on.

I've certainly learnt a lot from this thread.

1. There are a lot of people who could start a row in an empty room.

2. There is at least one asexual person who feels that asexual people are victims of discrimination. I'm not sure how they are discriminated against but I'm open to be given an explanation.

3. People wear attention-grabbing clothing to Pride marches (who'd have thought) and at least one of these people is asexual.

4. Men may or may not be allowed to be gender critical.

Nobody is " against" you haveing no sexual feelings - what they object to is another formal and unnecessary identity label and the set of demands that tend to go with those. Nobody is bothered about your lack of sexual feeling except for you. Why do you fel the need to make a big statement of it? For what end?

The OP tried to impune the wonderful James Esses, saying;
"Well that’s my basic point. When we wear revealing clothes we are not asking some man to come along and have sex with us. They’re just clothes. Presumably she thinks she looks good and more power to her."

I pointed out that the woman in a bondage outfit would get the same reaction in my Lesbian social group.

It's fake outrage and of course she ignores me as I've disproved the point. This is all about trying to pit women against great GC men.

And though I mention it here often to make a point. I regard myself as a regular person, a woman, who happens to be same-sex attracted. It is not my identity.

Well, yes.
Those people would be taking a piss out of asexuals.
And causing them harm, potentially.

What, asexual tells someone/to a date (yes, asexuals might want a relationship) they are asexual and they can then just turn and say: ”well, asexuals do have sex, so how about it”?
Awful!
People barely take asexuals seriously or respectfully, and these peoplw have turned them into a total joke.

@Letmespeak82 Why did you wear revealing clothes to a club? If you checked your outfit in the mirror before you went out then you at least cared a little about how you looked which means you cared how others looked at you. Of course this doesn’t mean you wanted sex/sexual attention from others although for some women that might genuinely be their intention for dressing in a certain way. But I’m assuming that you didn’t feel you looked worse for wearing a revealing outfit?

Surely if someone was genuinely 'asexual' e.g. really not interested in sex, uncomfortable with it etc, they'll be pissed off at a redefinition into 'might want to have sex after all'? Because their focus would be very much on avoiding sex and not under any circumstances being expected to do it.

It's a world currently of words not meaning what they've always meant. People changing the meaning to suit their own needs/wants. It's driving my loopy.

There's an argument to be made that wen sexuality became enmeshed with identity politics, it was inevitable that there would be a huge fragmentation of sexual identities.

Of course originally the idea of sexuality only arose at all because there are different biological consequences (no babies, mainly) and different social treatment (in some societies.) And worth noting the concept of sexuality is not present in many, maybe most, societies.

Then more latterly it emerged as important in an effort to change legal and social views on same sex partnerships/relationships.

But I don't think it's untrue to say that overall, much of the gay community has embraced sexuality as identity, in addition to all of that. I would say it's been pretty influential in terms of creating a certain perspective on identity in general.

They have sex
They want to have sex
But it isn't sexual.

Make it make sense

Well that is fucking revolting.

And that is not what asexuality is.

Hi OP - now you are back, can you let me know the answer to this question above?

You are out of the loop, the narrative now is that many asexuals do have sex, because they want to, it's just somehow not sexual for them.

It’s a sexual orientation, kind of a lack there of, but none the less.

Maybe lesbians are only lesbians now, who knows?
Maybe hetero women is a lesbian tomorrow?

That’s a very lame ’gotcha’.

But living years and decades and not feeling it, I’m glad there was finally a word for it.
This isin’t about being single for whole two weeks.

Again, it means nothing to you, means a lot for someone like me.
That’s all I care about. And so called feminist being so againts it is beyond weird.

What?
What community?

How do you know you will never feel sexual desire, ever? You cannot possibly know that. Desire and attraction comes and goes. Perhaps you just are not that interested in having sex; that's perfectly normal. It is not a condition, as such.

What might that be?

Lots of people don't have sex for a vareity of reasons. Perhaps because you associate with a community which is so focused on sex your lack of sex is more of an issue than it need be?

We tend to discuss things in a more detached, analytical way.

Can’t say I’ve really seen this.

Women's clothes and shoes have always been designed to accentuate secondary sexual characteristics; and are often uncomfortable and restrictive too.

Actually as far as "uncomfortable and restrictive" clothing goes, this is the time of year when women have a distinct advantage over men.