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OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 17:23

A transman has posted videos and photos of 'his' pregnancy on Tiktok.

I commented saying I am entitled to my opinion but being a transman means you make a choice to live as a 'man' but only females can be pregnant and birth a child.

I've been blocked for being 'ignorant'.

I'm not wrong, am I?? Only females can be pregnant. Dress it up as you like but saying you're a bloke, growing a beard with whatever hormones you're taking, does not make you a pregnant male - you're a pregnant female with a womb, ovaries and everything a male doesn't have in order to carry a child to term.

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WomenShouldStillWinWomensSports · 04/07/2023 22:17

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 20:44

But just to reiterate that this is an open to all Tiktok account.

That account is obviously, as a PP said, expecting applauds.

If you have an open account inviting comments, then why block posters comments? Engage or keep your account private.

I will say again, only females can get pregnant and carry a baby. Males cannot. It is biologically impossible. If people decide they're something else, then, no problem. But don't pretend to be a pregnant man when you're a female who chooses to identify otherwise.

  1. We are not a hivemind on Feminism and are all entitled to disagree with you and it doesn't make those of us who do any less feminists.
  2. I think you were mean.
  3. If someone had lung cancer I wouldn't wave it in their face that it was their own fault for smoking 20 a day. If someone announced that they were a bedspread I wouldn't have an argument with them, I'd tactfully try and establish what help and support they were getting and point them in the direction of someone who could help with their delusions. I wouldn't tell them I thought they were delusional. It's counterproductive.
  4. I don't think going around insulting people and alienating them does anything for the cause tbh.
  5. Yes it was an open channel but that doesn't mean people are standing around like fish in a barrel waiting to be insulted or that they have to listen to you. Free speech does not equal being entitled to being heard by anyone in particular.
Zodfa · 04/07/2023 22:10

LonginesPrime · 04/07/2023 19:59

If I went onto the social media account of a Christian celebrating their faith and said "you're wrong and God's not real", I would expect to be blocked.

Obviously not everyone believes the same things, but if they're pregnant, I'm sure they're more than aware that they're biologically female anyway.

Pregnant transmen posting on social media, or featured in traditional media, tend to give off slightly more "look at me and how special I am!" vibes than the average Christian celebrating their faith though. (That's not to say Christians don't make attention-seeking postings sometimes.) If people are going to seek attention then they should expect some of that attention will be negative.

Neverinamonthofsundays · 04/07/2023 21:34

cfmtb · 04/07/2023 20:54

There's a documentary coming out about this soon. There was a trans man giving birth on the ward I was in when I gave birth a couple of months ago and there were cameras everywhere (Channel 4 I think?). Should be interesting to see!

So there was basically a woman who wants to be known as a man yet has not bothered with any kind of surgery or medication to do so having a baby. Ergo a woman on a ward having given birth to a baby but she prefers to think of herself as a man. Ridiculous.

Nomorenonbinary · 04/07/2023 20:54

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 20:44

But just to reiterate that this is an open to all Tiktok account.

That account is obviously, as a PP said, expecting applauds.

If you have an open account inviting comments, then why block posters comments? Engage or keep your account private.

I will say again, only females can get pregnant and carry a baby. Males cannot. It is biologically impossible. If people decide they're something else, then, no problem. But don't pretend to be a pregnant man when you're a female who chooses to identify otherwise.

You seem to be missing the point, which is, anyone on social media can block you for any reason.

cfmtb · 04/07/2023 20:54

There's a documentary coming out about this soon. There was a trans man giving birth on the ward I was in when I gave birth a couple of months ago and there were cameras everywhere (Channel 4 I think?). Should be interesting to see!

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 20:44

But just to reiterate that this is an open to all Tiktok account.

That account is obviously, as a PP said, expecting applauds.

If you have an open account inviting comments, then why block posters comments? Engage or keep your account private.

I will say again, only females can get pregnant and carry a baby. Males cannot. It is biologically impossible. If people decide they're something else, then, no problem. But don't pretend to be a pregnant man when you're a female who chooses to identify otherwise.

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OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 20:31

LonginesPrime · 04/07/2023 19:59

If I went onto the social media account of a Christian celebrating their faith and said "you're wrong and God's not real", I would expect to be blocked.

Obviously not everyone believes the same things, but if they're pregnant, I'm sure they're more than aware that they're biologically female anyway.

Exactly this!!

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LonginesPrime · 04/07/2023 19:59

If I went onto the social media account of a Christian celebrating their faith and said "you're wrong and God's not real", I would expect to be blocked.

Obviously not everyone believes the same things, but if they're pregnant, I'm sure they're more than aware that they're biologically female anyway.

Nomorenonbinary · 04/07/2023 19:57

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:53

@Nomorenonbinary of course! But maybe I'm on the wrong board? I thought this was sex and gender. Obviously people can have their own opinions and block whomever they like. But...! If you're posting on open social media for all to see, then aren't you doing that to invite comments and engagement?

If you then block comments such as mine, then why have your social media open to all?

People can engage with comments how they like though, including blocking the commenter. This being the sex and gender board doesn't change that.

BluebellBlueballs · 04/07/2023 19:55

Well a transman can get pregnant

It kind of proves they are female

Born males chestfeeding, now that's something else

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:55

RachelNoire · 04/07/2023 19:53

They're after praise, validation and attention. Best thing to do imo is ignore

Exactly this. They’ve been spoonfed an ideology by a wealthy capitalist lobby (medical-technological) so of course they’re not going to like it when someone points out reality to them.

They’re deluded and for many, there’s no going back and no point offering them a golden bridge.

This!! ^

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OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:53

@Nomorenonbinary of course! But maybe I'm on the wrong board? I thought this was sex and gender. Obviously people can have their own opinions and block whomever they like. But...! If you're posting on open social media for all to see, then aren't you doing that to invite comments and engagement?

If you then block comments such as mine, then why have your social media open to all?

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RachelNoire · 04/07/2023 19:53

They're after praise, validation and attention. Best thing to do imo is ignore

Exactly this. They’ve been spoonfed an ideology by a wealthy capitalist lobby (medical-technological) so of course they’re not going to like it when someone points out reality to them.

They’re deluded and for many, there’s no going back and no point offering them a golden bridge.

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:46

Circumferences · 04/07/2023 19:37

The person calling you "ignorant" believes in the faith of gender ideology.
They believe in gendered souls.
They believe man/woman means nothing more than your internal perception of yourself, and has nothing to do with biology, or how other people perceive you.

People of this faith will insist you refer to them as a man/woman despite evidence to the contrary.

There's no point arguing because you will get blocked or cancelled. It's the ONE TRUE FAITH and any comments against it is hateful bigotry and literal violence.

Get used to it.

Wow. Just taking all of that in, thank you...

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Nomorenonbinary · 04/07/2023 19:46

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:37

This is the feminism sex and gender board.

I've no problem with being blocked but if you're saying you're a transman, have a beard, live your life as a man because that's how 'you identify', then great. Go you!

Don't flaunt a pregnancy which is a female only possibility whilst pretending to be a man! You've decided to be a man or you're a genetic female.

Aren't we allowed to have a point of view if the person is publicly posting with open comments?

Yes of course you are, and they are allowed to block you.

Circumferences · 04/07/2023 19:37

The person calling you "ignorant" believes in the faith of gender ideology.
They believe in gendered souls.
They believe man/woman means nothing more than your internal perception of yourself, and has nothing to do with biology, or how other people perceive you.

People of this faith will insist you refer to them as a man/woman despite evidence to the contrary.

There's no point arguing because you will get blocked or cancelled. It's the ONE TRUE FAITH and any comments against it is hateful bigotry and literal violence.

Get used to it.

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:37

Nomorenonbinary · 04/07/2023 18:11

These are such weird threads. If you say something on someone's social media that they don't like they might block you.

This is the feminism sex and gender board.

I've no problem with being blocked but if you're saying you're a transman, have a beard, live your life as a man because that's how 'you identify', then great. Go you!

Don't flaunt a pregnancy which is a female only possibility whilst pretending to be a man! You've decided to be a man or you're a genetic female.

Aren't we allowed to have a point of view if the person is publicly posting with open comments?

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Forwarder · 04/07/2023 19:36

You are right. She blocked you because you are right. No need to participate in her delusions.

Poor kid. The mum sounds vulnerable. Hope she doesn't get with a child abuser.

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 19:30

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/07/2023 18:10

You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't always mean you need to express it

What, that only women can get pregnant? that's not opinion, it's immutable biological fact.

Exactly that!

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PorcelinaV · 04/07/2023 18:42

Well it's not like there are strict rules for "living as a man" when you're actually a woman, so I guess they are free to just make it up as they go.

Nomorenonbinary · 04/07/2023 18:11

These are such weird threads. If you say something on someone's social media that they don't like they might block you.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/07/2023 18:10

You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't always mean you need to express it

What, that only women can get pregnant? that's not opinion, it's immutable biological fact.

Motorina · 04/07/2023 18:06

I don't disagree with your views, but I wouldn't critique a pregnant woman's lifestyle choices on her social media, no matter how strongly I disagreed with her.

And, if I did, I'd expect to be blocked.

You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't always mean you need to express it.

RoseslnTheHospital · 04/07/2023 17:38

I see what you're saying but if platforms provide a block option then as well as people having the ability to post what responses they like, the OP has the ability to block them.

MN is a different kind of place because you cannot block people who post stuff you disagree with. But posters are also anonymous and can name change at will.

OldTinHat · 04/07/2023 17:36

All very valid points made. And of course the Tiktok OP will be protective of comments.

But...! If you post on an open platform and allow comments then you should also accept that not all comments will be what you want to hear? A bit like AIBU here, it's a vipers next!

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