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Should threads be moved out of here as well as in?

109 replies

TeenDivided · 04/07/2023 09:44

Just musing really.

We have threads moved into this board if monitors / MN think they are about sex & gender.

But we have recently had the Disney thread, which wasn't really about sex and gender but a wider issue, being used to say that FWR is racist and needs an even closer eye on it. We now have the great awakening thread which is only about sex and gender tangentially and more about conspiracy theory placed on this board.

Should the FWR users be actively reporting non sex&gender threads requesting they be moved out to somewhere more appropriate?

OP posts:
Helleofabore · 04/07/2023 13:02

There really has been a concerted effort to portray FWR again as a 'problem' that MNHQ has to fix. There has been the usual accusations of different types of hate.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/4838748-mn-needs-a-closer-watch-of-fwr?page=1

I had thought the 'you are all right wing' had decreased somewhat over the past weeks. I realise it was just that I was on less threads. Now it is 'you are all being influenced and you cannot see it!'

MN needs a closer watch of FWR | Mumsnet

There is a concerning growth of posts with racist undertones cropping up on these boards, all under the guise of being proudly 'anti-woke'....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/site_stuff/4838748-mn-needs-a-closer-watch-of-fwr?page=1

MrsOvertonsWindow · 04/07/2023 12:58

Agree OP. There's a real determination to silence FWR, just at a time where the wheels are coming off as the general public looks in horror at the targeting of children, the open displays of male fetish, the worrying data about sex offenders and the abusive tactics and coercive control visible to all.
On the other hand, MNHQ have held the line for free speech even when it wasn't in their financial interests to do so, so I suspect that the random anti women misogynists who pop up to berate us all will have limited impact.

LoobiJee · 04/07/2023 12:51

I think preparations are under way for another attempt to get FWR closed down completely. And that some of the threads on here and elsewhere are laying the foundations for that.

The thread that was moved over here from either chat or aibu is an example of that. I was shocked when I read it as it was clearly a “not a FWR thread” right from the OP through the many of the contributions. Then about halfway through I realised it wasn’t a fwr-originated thread but had been dumped here from elsewhere on the site.

There seems to be an effort on the part of some to turn fwr into a US-style right wing versus left wing forum, like a mini Fox News or something. I can’t work out whether some paid influencing company has been given a brief of trying to influence the next election and is using fairly crude US-style tactics. Or whether it’s a give FWR a bad name to get it shut down campaign. Or both. Maybe the international commercial reproductive exploitation of women trade doesn’t like the fact that fwr is so knowledgeable on the harms of surrogacy and wants it silenced.

Either way, there’s definitely been a noticeable change in the content.

I agree with getting posts moved out.

MsFogi · 04/07/2023 12:43

If we're honest though the most intelligent MNers are in this area of the site so if you wanted some decent advice on anything this is probably the best place to post 😁

WhiteFire · 04/07/2023 12:41

This was entirely predictable, the chat board is like tumbleweed and this board has been shoe-horned into a one topic only which quite frankly has been a disaster.

If only things had been left how they were.

Beamur · 04/07/2023 12:28

I thought that the conspiracy thread had sufficient relevance to stay. It's up to posters if they want to engage or not.

Helleofabore · 04/07/2023 12:27

Technically you are right. But often people post here for the traffic. I am against moving any threads unless the OP wishes it.

inkjet · 04/07/2023 10:19

I think you’re probably right, though I myself have probably posted tangential threads on here. The only reason I have is because I felt the topic sort of broadly relates to what we discuss on here and if I posted it anywhere else posters are more likely to just tell you off for the source/virtue signal/refuse to debate. The S&G board feels a bit more evolved! But I can see those threads open us to more accusations. (I haven’t actually read the Disney thread to know what was said btw).

AutumnCrow · 04/07/2023 09:53

Yes, I see your point. Some of them should probably be in main Chat, unless there's a 'Not Very Up To Date Conspiracy Discussions' board?

(I wouldn't even inflict a couple of them on Feminist Chat.)

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