To ask everyone who has heard of using pronouns to watch this?

Amala Ekpunobi would be worth watching on YouTube.
She’s really smart. She’s really balanced. She’s really likeable.

Both, in fact. Bit of a theme.

I am no longer comfortable using ‘preferred pronouns’, but I did start off thinking it was the ‘kind’ and respectful thing to do.

I am pro gay rights and pro people being able to dress or act in feminine/masculine ways without discrimination.

I draw the line at many trans ideologies such as ‘education’ in schools, sports and not being able to say ‘I’m a woman’ if you are a woman, (person with ‘bit’) but you can if a man, apparently. Nope don’t agree.

I do not identify with most right wing politics.

I would not watch the video, as even though I’d never heard of her until now, if what posters are saying is true then I wouldn’t be comfortable giving her my time.

You do realise YOU also agree with Hitler, and Trump, and a load of other insidious people that the sky is blue, and the earth is not (sorry - left out that critical word) flat?

Agreeing with someone on one point, doesn’t mean you have to align with them on everything. Come on - this is basic stuff.

In any case, this has been an introduction to this women to me - and although I agree with what she says, post the Pride comment, she doesn’t sound like someone I would otherwise have any time for.

I am a left-leaning, liberal, socially progressive feminist, who has fundamental issues with, and concerns about, the profound misogyny and homophobia in trans activism.

Couldn't agree more.

I think it was Santa, not Jesus.

Megyn Kelley is anything but gender critical. She also isn't a feminist. No reason to discuss her on the feminism boards.

I remember when Piers Morgan was the only mainstream TV critic of Johnson’s handling of the pandemic, and I had to unblock him on Twitter and agree with much of what he said. It was horrible, and I was glad when he reverted to type and I could block him again. But I didn’t disagree with what he said on Covid, just because it was him saying it. It’s the stopped watch thing, sometimes it tells the right time, but you wouldn’t want to rely on it to catch the right train.

Same with Megyn Kelly, although I knew much less about her before I saw this monologue a week or two ago - I think she makes a persuasive case here about pronouns, although it sounds as though most of her other opinions would clash with mine.

As always, it can be summed up with a Simpsons quote 😂

“I don't agree with his Bart-killing policy, but I do approve of his Selma-killing policy.”

Was going to write a lot but realised that @marewindham said it all very clearly

her views are so extreme on so many things that can't be brushed over because of this one topic

I think you mean Heil Megyn

Thank you for sharing this....never a truer word was spoken. Hail Megan!
A male person will NEVER be a woman.
We adult human females need to protect the human rights of our daughters.

Why is it that anyone that disagrees with you and the many others on here are typecast as bigots and dismissed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and to be heard. People are entitled to offend and to be offended. We live in a free country and will not be silenced.

Lol, come on back when you know how analogies work.

@marewindham - thank you for your post. Not sure how she hasn’t come across my radar before.

Neither would I

@Iforgotmyusernameagainandagain No, I would not. I refuse to listen to extremists on either side.

@AlisonDonut She is a bigot, a bible thumper, a racist, she minimized the 6 jan insurrection, she is a conspiracy theorist, she gave a platform to even more vile alex jones, I could go on and on. If you google her you will find all you need to know to detest her. That is, if you disagree with with her brand of rightwing christian ideology.

Hitler probably thought the sky was blue and the earth was flat. I think the sky is blue and the earth is flat. If I agree with him on some stuff, even though I find himabhorrent, does that make me a literal Nazi……..?

If i was trying to convince someone that the sky was blue, I wouldn't fucking use Hitler as my reference.

This is a classic example of what I mentioned recently in site stuff (and got roundly attacked for): people pushing right wing/white supremacist ideology onto us and trying to make us like far right wingers on the grounds that they "know what a woman is".

Megyn Kelly has repeatedly made racist and white supremacist comments (her show in America actually got cancelled over her doing a segment in support of blackface); she regularly speaks out against what she considers the wave of Muslim immigrants in Europe while also claiming to be pro-immigration in the US; she approved an on-air caption referring to Michelle Obama as "Obama's babymomma" and got angry when staffers complained that it was racist and overruled it; she' been accused of racism and creating a culture of systemic racism by her own staffers; dismissed and victim-blamed black victims of police brutality and black people murdered by police; she's referred to African-American culture as "thug-like" and claimed that Michelle Obama leads African American people in "playing the victim"; said that black people murdered by police are to blame for their own murder because they should have just been compliant and not argued (when some black people have been murdered by police while asleep in their own beds, and since when do we give people the death penalty for being argumentative?); said that leaked racist emails from police forces aren't a big deal because "you won't find many companies in America without racist emails", and she's publicly praised and supported Trump while leaked private conversations show that she's anti-Trump.

Of course this is Mumsnet and the threads about black people being murdered by police or black people being hunted down and lynched by thugs are full of comments implying they deserved it and comments trashing the victims (the George Floyd threads and Ahmaud Arbery threads here were disgusting), I bet there are plenty of posters who will howl in outrage at the suggestion that referring to Michelle Obama as "babymomma" isn't racist, who will defend blackface, who will agree with her that Muslims are infesting Europe, because it happens every single time anything to do with race is mentioned.

She's on record as saying that she's not a feminist, she doesn't believe in things like gender quotas or affirmative action requiring companies to hire women, she's mocked the idea of universities have policies on sexual consent and gone on record as saying that student sexual consent policies are "anti-men", she's said she thinks conversation around the idea that there's a gender pay gap are "infantilising", and her book defends sexism as being generational while speaking out against sexism that she personally has experienced.

Oh and she said that people can be turned gay by watching Will and Grace.

Someone in site stuff said (paraphrased) "you must think the women of Mumsnet are not very intelligent if they can't see that people are exploiting GC feminism to try to coerce women into far right" - guess this thread is our chance to find out!

Stop pushing right wing ideology on the grounds that racists hate trans people so that means they're okay and we should listen to them.

I’ve never heard of her, which is clearly surprising, given I have been following the TRAliban debate for years and years now.

That was a really uncomfortable opener. I mean, way to lose people from the off.

But I persevered.

She goes on to say that for years, she welcomed TW into women’s spaces, because ‘what harm?’ She used their preferred pronouns. She #waskind.

But then she had her eyes opened, like so many of us. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Hitler probably thought the sky was blue and the earth was flat. I think the sky is blue and the earth is flat. If I agree with him on some stuff, even though I find him abhorrent, does that make me a literal Nazi……..?

Because if so, that explains the level of critical thinking clearly at play, and why so many people are falling for the shit show that is gender ideology.

I didn't tell anyone not to listen.

But her blatant homophobia is not something I'm willing to ignore, and I reserve the right to think less of people who are ok with it.

Don’t know who she is but I agree with her.

I took that to mean the hype. A bit like being subjected to Christmas.

LOL this thread, are you all blokes? I watched this lady recently and she was spot on! An example of someone who has listened and understood.