Are we beginning to see the push back against the extreme left

I agree that the guardian has been absolutely terrible on this issue, @Signalbox . I don't agree with the implicit suggetion in your post that the BBC is a left-wing voice. If you see it as a left-wing voice I just don't know what you mean be left-wing?

Among the other entities that are pushing gender ideology are dozens of corporations, who do it because it suits their marketing objectives. To someone like me, with a broadly socialist outlook, corporate activity of this sort is essentially conservative because it facilitates the continuing economic activity of exploitation that these corporations excel in (by displacing and disguising objective criteria for social justice, replacing them with a subjective, individualist simulacrum of social justice). The BBC increasingly has commercial imparatives, so the dynamic is perhaps similar there.

If gender ideology has nothing to do with the political left / right divide then the political right have as much business attempting to discredit it as the left don’t they? By raising concerns they are not “inserting themselves into feminism” they are highlighting what they see as a problematic ideology. The reason the Daily Mail features a lot on these pages is because they cover this issue, as do the Times and the Telegraph. If there is no political divide why are the Guardian and the BBC not attempting to highlight these issues and back up feminists from a left wing perspective?

The latter. It's "men are like this, and women are like that", and you might have certain behavioural characteristics that make you "less of a man/ less womanly". The inescapable tying of physical, biological characteristics to psychological or behavioural ones - like eugenics.

What "extreme left"? Gender idology has nothing to do with the left/right divide. Its a fever dream created by the internet's insane distortion of discourse and thought.

All these right-wing voices inserting themselves into feminism, exploiting concerns about gender ideology, are becoming frightening. It seems like every other thread I open on this board has a link to the flipping Daily Mail on it.

We need to distinguish between the Right and Far Right.

It would be lovely if Left- or liberal- leaning parties were prepared to support women's rights, but they are not. If we had waited for Labour or the LibDems in the UK, or Dems in the US, to wake up to the harms of gender ideology, Self-ID would be law by now. I make no apologies at all for making common cause with conservative (small or large C) politicians on this, as much as I may disagree with their other views, and as much as I recognise their own imperfect records on gender ideology.

I think it's a huge problem the far right are using this issue and viewed as a potential political home for the gender critical. This embeddens down the viewpoint that those of us that are GC are also racist, homophobic, transphobic Nazis.
This weakens the cause unless you are secretly (or not so secretly in some case) more interested in further the right wing political parties than ensuring women have female only spaces.

Are any far right political parties pushing gender ideology?

Or they aren't pushing it, but it's similar to their ideology in some way?

Personally I see gender ideology as going hand-in-hand with the Far Right. Both are incredibly harmful.

I think the other main Communist party in the U.K. is GC ish too. I seem to remember some articles.

Either way, I don’t think of gender identity ideology as left wing so much as uber capitalist. The CPGB certainly saw through it.

The transgender agenda has managed very successfully to insert itself in mediocre left-wing parties, but it is the ultimate neo-liberal movement based on extreme individualism and profits for the pharmaceutical industry.

Yes, exactly! It’s not leftwing at all. God knows how anyone can support solipsistic GI ideology while pretending to be a socialist.

@DemiColon

On Individualism not being of the Left, I do agree but the Left is pursuing it through Intersectionality, which followed to its logical conclusion is a very clear form of Individualism.

@IwantToRetire

Well said

That is so true - and it is striking how vulnerable the 'mediocre left' political parties have been to being captured, to the extent that the Greens seem more interested in transgender issues than the environment.

The Spectator article is interesting but is perhaps too anxious to present most of these women politicians as mainstream right.

Remove everyone's rights one group at a time.

What is the non solution it provides?

No. Fascism is on the rise as it provides a simplistic non solution to problems and people forget history.

@Babdoc
I really wish the Communists would stand in my constituency. I will never vote SNP again unless and until there is a complete change in their...well, everything really. Last time I held my nose and voted for the Alba candidate (who polled less than a convicted sex offender, IIRC) and an independent I didn't know much about.

Starmer has a choice. Relent to leftist pressures to bring in PR voting, and the start of the post Conservative party phase will start, as alt Right parties form and gain traction in Parliament, a constant five to six party battle of Lab, LDs, Greens, Tories and one or two Alt Right parties.

Or stick with FPTP, risk losing in 2028, ushering in Tories for another four terms.

I cant say I can be bothered to read the article, but maybe the OP's headline is misleading.

I am not aware of any "extreme left" groups having been in power in any european country.

And if this is meant to be about trans ideology, this have come from middle of the road, middle class, individualists who think the world, whether the working class in their own country or those whose countries have natural wealth, should work to provide them with the benefits.

Lets face it even Corbyn wasn't that left wing, it was more a personality cult, which (as UK politics is treated as a reality show by the UK media) set him up as a target for the MSM.

The rise of the far right in Europe is not to be celebrated because it is as a result of just how useless most left, even liberal, political parties are. Or possibly how easy it is for the rich owners of newspapers and tv news stations, to present the more communal, fair shares for all, society is not possible. The endorse the dog it dog world that means that the US one of the richest countries in the world has the worst health service.

I thought the British Communist party (left wing last time I looked) was the only party not fixated with TWAW ideology ?

@Hepwo

According to Julian Vigo, who lost everything in the floods, the financial relief is going to the wealthy and big business, nothing is going the middle classes or the poor

The Greek and Spanish Comunist Party seem to be against GI too
(could not find anything re other European countries) but I know wthat the CPs in South America are full on TWAW

Babdoc I thought you were a Scottish Conservative voter? Have you converted to communism along with your lovely daughter 😁?

Fully agree with this.

The 'liberal progressive' left 🙄

I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that.

I know a couple of people who are involved in the anarchist movement in the uk and trans politics are a constant source of squabbling and falling out. Half of them are completely obsessed with trans identity politics and the other half just seem to want it all to go away. On balance though the trans activists are the dominant side. This has been going on for years way before it infected the mainstream parties. Helen Steel was mobbed at the 2017 Anarchist Book fair but these politics were being pushed way before that.

Also the SWP as always are latching on to trans activism. Trans activist demos are perfect recruiting ground for them because they are full of naïve easy to manipulate young people.