Owen Jones guardian piece attacking Duffield

I'm not giving that tedious little turd clicks.

Lesbians should accept penises without barely a whisper.

Gay men on the other hand are fully allowed to refuse vaginas.

Ugghh, can't stand the little twerp. Even by Guardian standards he's smug. You know, it would be interesting have a smugness contest between Owen Jones and Stewart Lee. There are so many insufferable, sanctimonious Oxbridge liberals in the media (in fact, the British media pretty much is smug Oxbridge liberals), but Owen Jones and Stewart Lee are in a league of their own.

@Forwarder that's true. I don't think any of them supported it? I've not been a Labour party member for many years because of HQ interference in local politics...a whole other thread.

I'm no great fan of the MP for Bootle. I've a long memory of his actions when he was on the local Fire Authority. However, there are quite a few things he voted on that I've supported.

Thing is, when you are living in a ( mostly) deprived area, and wading through the day to day shit that affects you, and those around you, a vote for him is possibly the only way some of us can put two fingers up at this Government on other issues.

It's no great secret here that politics in Merseyside has a history of politicians looking after their own interests - regardless of Party.

As for "matrons" of Bootle as you call us🙂 well, I can't say I know of many women who would describe themselves as such... but we do all know that men can't have babies.

Unlike some of those posh lads in frocks who wander up here now and then from the Universities it would seem. All that education and no idea where babies come from.

Oh, I thought I heard some vaguely outraged squeaking yesterday afternoon. I just thought the hamster had dropped a sunflower seed through the bars again.

The one thing that would make it coherent instead of batshit is misogyny. Not seeing women as equally real people, or with an entitlement to deny male people access to their bodies. It's quite staggeringly common throughout the TQ+ political rhetoric.

AlisonDonut · Today 18:24

When that was suggested to him, he called the suggestion 'homophobic'.

Hmm. I'm not clear about this; suggesting that he take a transman as a sex partner is homophobic, but calling lesbians who don't want a transw one sexual racists and transphobic bigots is just the thing?

How does that work?

Momentum’s tweet about Rosie’s comments got well and truly kicked into touch on Twitter today. Enjoyed reading the quote tweets.

When that was suggested to him, he called the suggestion 'homophobic'.

If we had made Owen Jones up, he would be his own Black Mirror episode.

Unless he would happily have a Trans-Man-Gina on his face then he just needs to shush - silly boy!

Funny how he knows what sex people are when he's choosing a partner but insists women should be blind.

@LarkLane an awful lot of the Labour MPs who bothered to vote against Andrew Bridgens motion were from Merseyside.

Presumably they think the matrons of Bootle will just keep voting like sheep?

I think it's a wonderful balanced piece personally!

https://healingproperties.org/outrage-addiction-because-anger-feels-so-damn-good/

Outrage and addictionOur brain produces dopamine and other chemicals that create a pleasure response.We enjoy these pleasant feelings so we repeat the activities that produce them. We choose which behaviors get reinforced and which triggers the release of more reward chemicals.

This same phenomenon also explains why gambling is a habit that is so difficult to break. Studies show that gambling produces a pattern of brain activity similar to cocaine in an addict.

Rage is another harmful pattern that has a chemical-reinforcement component. We talk about righteous indignation to justify our outrage, but virtue-signaling produces a vicious cycle that any of us can fall into. The more outraged we are at others, the more righteous we feel. That leads further down the rabbit hole where we experience moral superiority over others.

Outrage at other people’s failings allows us to feel vindicated from our own similar weaknesses. When we shout at them, it makes us feel pure. “I am so much smarter and better than my enemies! They are so wrong, and I am so right!” Again, that pleasure response is activated, and we will try to reinforce our way of thinking.

Sanctimonious rage is so intense and pleasurable that we return to it again and again. In short, it becomes addictive.

Tweet from Hennie Inglis: Owen Jones attacks Rosie for standing up for mothers. Yet he doesn't attack Paul Embery, who Rosie was QTing. Funny that 🤔

https://twitter.com/HennieInglis/status/1674540838183895042?t=Cs2yhJVrzbdJTjnrEDD0jA&s=19

This gets to the heart of the matter for me. Owen Jones knows very well that Paul Embery would never get the sort of abuse that Rosie Duffield gets. It's what @ArabeIIaScott said - he lives for stirring up strife.

As a well paid journalist, he is much happier living under a Conservative government than under a Labour one. If he really cared, he'd be focusing on what Mika said about rising water bills, not deflecting it onto what Rosie Duffield tweeted.

Labour has become a party of snitches and OJ fits the bill perfectly

Why would he expect Starmer to 'take action' against Rosie Duffield? The law agrees with her. It would be illegal for Starmer to censure Rosie for her tweet.

I can't watch Jeremy Vine when he's on.

ADHD, eh? Abysmally Dismal Hopeless Dickhead, in his case.

Also, I’ve just noticed that it’s Rosie Duffield’s birthday today. Happy Birthday Rosie!

That’ll be his recently diagnosed ADHD

(Can’t screen shot I’m afraid, but I saw this the other day just before Twitter kicked off lurkers like me.)

I’ve said it before on FWR and think it’s appropriate to say again in response to this.

I always say to myself ‘nope fuck off’ every time I get that annoying message ‘you’ve read XXX number of articles on The Guardian website would you like to contribute’.

If anyone is reading from the Guardian. The day you begin to really support women and girls and women such as Rosie, Maya, etc I will click differently.

I don't usually bother reading OJ. The most interesting thing in this piece is the confirmation Starmer's office won't be responding to complaints about RD's Tweet ("at this stage"). Gives some slight hope that the tail isn't wagging the dog this time. Which is probably really what OJ can't stand.

He needs a hobby. I've seen him in Jeremy vine and he loves nothing more than to be "outraged" about anything at all. Last time it was that a £10 toothpaste exists. He's on the lookout to be upset, I think it's an addiction of sorts.

Indeed! It's also worth remembering that the Liberal Party's "straight choice" was not-so-straight Simon Hughes.