Here are 6 reasons why we need a truly queer environmental movement

They announced on Twitter a couple of days ago they’d be “taking action”, which may explain why the police were ready for them.

So Pride get to hold an event without counter protests disrupting the event for more than a few minutes but the likes of KJK or WPUK or the AHF film people have their events disrupted and the police do nothing. Why does this not surprise me.

The people most impacted by the climate crisis are children, and people living in countries most at risk of becoming uninhabitable due to rising sea levels and soaring temperatures.

Just stop oil have brought Pride in London to a standstill by sitting in the road in front of a Coca Cola lorry!

Funny!

Police swooped in to arrest them.

For a change!

Now we know why that article was updated.

OMG

Preserving for posterity.

I think you'd be surprised about what actually happens amongst (some) gay women.

I have been on the receiving end of unwelcome advances several times, and normally this is fine, I can knock people back politely no bother, all good, and all understood.

On a couple of occasions it has not been fine. On one night a group of us continued the evening at a house party, one woman sitting next to me threw her legs over mine, head on my shoulder, mouth on my neck, coming on to me..I'm not interested, so I get up and I move away to another room. Should have been fine but there is only one way back for 4 of us that night, in the car of the sober person, and so I get verbally abused by her for the duration of the drive because I did not respond to her advances.

Another occasion, another drunk woman, (yes, these are both non trans lesbians) tells me she can't get home, I say fine, I have a spare downstairs room she can crash in. Get home, I get sheets for her bed, she helps me make the bed for her, and then she follows me upstairs to my bed anyway and gets in whilst I am lying there and wraps her arms around me as I curl away in the other direction.

These were both people I knew and liked before and that made it even more awkward. I wondered if I had given out misleading signs...but you know what, I'm pretty forthright, if I was in that position on those occasions, how many more lesbians have been in similar situations with other (yes, non-trans) lesbians?

It's not right to express concerns as if it is simply a question of lesbians being at risk of trans lesbians. Every individual is potentially at risk from every other individual. And so what is right is strengthening communication, understanding and education on consent and sexual choices and respect for those individual sexual choices across the board.

I should say I have also had an advance from a trans woman; on that occasion it was very formal, stilted, direct, asking me if I would be interested in accompanying her to a hobby we were both interested in, and making it it clear that she was interested in me romantically. I replied that I very much enjoyed her company as a friend (I continue to do so) but that I did not have an interest in her in a romantic sense. And that was the end of it. No bother whatsoever after. Honestly that was much easier to handle than the other two occasions.

I wonder how many lesbians who have fancied straight women go around bemoaning how bigoted those women are who didn't welcome their advances, and making threats to force them to suck their female vulvas and worse?

I wonder how many straight women have been told they must accept the possibility of lesbian sex, must learn to like lesbian sex, told that saying they are only interested in men is a genital fetish, excluded from groups and communities because they just don't fancy women, etc?

I'd wager the answer to both is few to none.

Indeed. Someone should start a forum called NotMensNet

Not men. That's how I would describe them, not men.

Any individual can define their sexual preferences for themselves, but they are not entitled to determine the sexual preferences of others.

Then I wish Stonewall and its TRA/MRA "allies" would stop trying to determine the sexual preferences of lesbians and branding those who disagree with them for doing that as "transphobic".

Also, any individual can define their own pronouns, but they can't impose them on others. Or doesn't it work like that?

Here are 6 reasons why we REALLY DONT need a truly queer environmental movement

Another man who is obsessed with the patriarchy, perhaps he doesn't feel like he lives up his imagined standards of masculinity and rages against the system.

I am very suspect of any man that rages against the patriarchy.

I think this shit is a bubble of nonsense that will soon burst now. In a year it will be as out of date as deely boppers and fidget spinners.

See, I’d have thought that poor people were most affected by climate change… it’s always good to be educated.

Unfortunately the Hijra community in Bangladesh are already very aware.

https://www.reuters.com/article/bangladesh-lgbt-disaster-idUSL8N2Y25VM

Any individual can define their sexual preferences for themselves, but they are not entitled to determine the sexual preferences of others.

And the fact is, this 'battle' occurs at the individual level all the time. None of us walk around with our sexualities on our foreheads, any of us could experience advances from any other person. One individual could construe those advances as welcome where the 2nd person would not.

If illegal behaviour is occuring, obviously that should be reported.

But the position that you are others are taking presumably makes it absolutely offensive, beyond the pale and disrespectful of boundaries that a lesbian makes an overture towards a hitherto straight woman?...but it is absolutely the case that formerly straight women have ended up in very happy relationships and been surprised at their unexpected attraction to another woman.

I think many people on these boards will be aware that this is quite a well known phenomenon and perhaps have a friend or 2 who in later life, and after a series of straight relationships are happy in a relationship with another woman.

So how would you describe these lesbians who made the initial 'overtures' ?Are they creeps? Predators? Transgressing boundaries? Disrespecting the information they knew about the individual?

Or perhaps an organic and respectful attraction developed?

If this is possible in this direction why might it not be possible in another?

LGBTQIA+ people are among the most impacted by the climate crisis

Have they told Bangladesh yet?

JSO's letter said "climate change is the biggest threat to LGBT+ rights, due to social collapse".

There's probably some truth in that. Arguably women (of any sexuality and identity) are most at risk in these situations (rape as weapon, less ability to fight back etc) but tbh civil wars are brutal for everyone.

I'm sure if Pride goes along with this they'll have to switch it around to "LGBT+ people are most under threat by climate change".

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Maybe because they are all middle class oxygen thieves, whose foreign jaunts and jollies have gone up in price? At a guess!

I'm sure someone somewhere can make this make sense.

I think I'll sand the decking while I wait.

The movement that wants to sell you a new identity and body to go with it and would prefer that gay people didn't reproduce? Say it ain't so!

Noooo! Doesn't he realise that heterosexual men dressed as fairies probably also wearing a nappy will literally expire?

Ha ha ha. The old "You're too stupid to understand what you're saying" argument.

Just imagine - try, for a moment! - that some people who support same-sex attraction are speaking from experience and allyship of the LGB. And that some other people are religious fundamentalists and Nazis. And - keep imagining! - it is possible that both those groups can exist without each being members of the other group. Just imagine!

You are repeating the false mantras and parroting the ideas that far right orgs have developed to split the community.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that Allison Bailey, Kate and Bev of LGBA and countless others are parroting far right orgs and not actually representing their own experience?

The experience of Mermaids trying to destroy LGBAs charity status is a direct attack they are experiencing. No-one needs to have a far right org tell us a false mantra about that, we were able to log in and watch the actual case live!

You are the one stuck on repeat inserting the same "far right" mantra about everything no matter how ridiculous it makes you look @suggestionsplease1