Sharron Davies on Woman's Hour today (Wednesday)

She was also interviewed on Newstalk (Ireland) today.
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Just caught up. Sharron was excellent - as always. Great that she got the time to put her knowledge and experience out there. I do miss Emma Barnett though...

I have listened to this. What an eloquent, measured and well researched speaker Sharron is. Absolutely fantastic. The evidence that was used to back up every point was helpful in keeping everything non-emotional and leaving no doubt about the truth.

I didn’t realise that.

You’d think it’d be a reason for more careful monitoring really.

It's because those drugs will have been tested on men.
I thought that this was because, ironically, women's hormones make them react unpredictably, and so they can't get consistent results.

Sorry, that was to @CurseYouPerryThePlatypus .

I had two mares and by God, were they hormonal! Competitions were a nightmare if it coincided with their sexy-time - and horses’ “seasons” are every three weeks during spring and summer. Mares are often unpopular as competition horses because of this unpredictability/unreliability.

I listened to this and the night before I watched Kathleen Stock at the Oxford Union on YouTube.

Nuala: something along the lines of... we haven't been able to bring anyone in to give the opposing point of view

Oxford Union: Kathleen Stock struggles to hear what students are asking because of the racket outside from TWAW supporters who didn't want her to say what she thought.

Have you ever heard a TWAW supporter apologise for not showing the opposite POV?

It was a good show from Sharron and the host was fairly reasonable.

Someone new to all this could listen to it for some time before realising they were talking about the simple matter of men pretending to be women, or even men just stating that they are women without doing any pretending. And people are letting these goons into women's sports events!

Off topic but speaking of menstrual cycles, I work closely with some NHS mental health workers and we have been discussing lately just how little female hormones are taken into account. Eg some antipsychotics favoured in psych wards (used to sedate, not just for teens who actually have psychosis) mess with hormone levels, risking the mental health of girls who are already affected by natural fluctuations. But it’s just female hormones so who cares, eh?

The latest in sports medicine is to train female athletes in tune with menstrual cycles. I believe it's how some women's football teams have done so well lately.

That’s really interesting!

I haven’t watched this, thank you for sharing. I did watch the Sex Matters webinar with Sharron on last night though, it was brilliant. I really admire her bravery and determination.

I must admit I usually avoid buying newly released books because money, I usually have to wait for eBay/charity shops, but I’m not waiting for her book. I am really glad she’s written it.

The latest in sports medicine is to train female athletes in tune with menstrual cycles. I believe it's how some women's football teams have done so well lately.

Women's metabolisms are very different to male metabolisms. In some contexts the complete opposite.

Of course they've only recently begun to collect data purely on women.

Brilliant brilliant Sharron.
What a warrior she is!
Make her a DAME
oh and the IOC should rectify the records to show she won 🏅

I’m also glad Sharron didn’t mention/reply to Emily Bridges’ cries of genocide, although I’d’ve been sorely tempted, personally.

Sharron was phenomenal. I'd never applauded a radio programme before today. Brilliant.

It was a great interview, Sharron was very impressive and knowledgable. Glad I listened to the first segment too, on the gropey Tory mayoral hopeful. Sharron had also listened, and was able to link what she was saying to what Isabel Hardman had said.

Who knew that the 'winners' in women's sports were actually just picked at random from the whole population?!

I’m keeping everything crossed I don’t get called up for the Paris 2024 Olympics. 🤞🤞🤞 I don’t want to have to lay off cake and beer to get in shape.

And just to continue ranting, what about tracking monthly performance fluctuations due to the menstrual cycle and comparing it to a transwoman's monthly performance? I wonder if that would highlight anything insightful.

What about considering years of training required? Most transwoman seem to start a sport and dominate immediately - maybe you could compare the years of sporting participation before medalling?

And if you're still reading, I am aware of the great work by Dr Emma Hilton and Ross Tucker - why is their work not accepted as settled science?

Yes - Nuala quoting Bridges’ hyperbole about the BC policy gave Sharron the opportunity to point out that it’s just emotional manipulation.

All this "the science is uncertain" bollocks really ticks me off!!!

Why is it uncertain? Because no one has bothered to research it properly. Why has no one bothered to research it properly? 1. Because no one cares about women's sports and 2. It would prove unequivocally that transgender women have an unfair advantage and no one wants to take on the transgender lobby because no 1.

The whole argument is ridiculous. What is the average height of elite biological women cyclists, runners and swimmers? What is the average height of transwomen cyclists, runners and swimmers? What about other physical measurements?

What about results and statistics from pre and post-transition for transwomen athletes? It's the 21st century and people first performed "sex changes" in the 1960s. The data exists! It's there! Just look at it! We know how fast Will Thomas swam and we know how fast Lia Thomas swam - compare them and then compare it to their peers. Why is this hard??? I could do it tomorrow but I'm busy!

Don't know why anyone is criticising Nuala.

She let Sharron speak, put the opposing view in a neutral and professional way and handled herself well.

I don't think we always recognise how much things are moving on - both the fact of the interview happening and the way it was conducted would have been unlikely only a year ago.

Another wrong “fact”:

”only one trans woman has competed in the Olympics, Laurel Hubbard of New Zealand, who participated in 2020 in Japan … she came last.”

These pathetic “reporters” really need to do their homework. Another relatively ancient Olympian, who had only been doing the sport for four years.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/530285-barrett-transgender-archer-olympics/

All the eyerolls! 🙄

NotHavingIt · Today 12:09

I see one of the wins was against a natal male who has boxed 8 matches professionally and won none of them. I guess promoters will only pitch Patricio against no-hope males?

They could well have been journeymen, who make a good living by not beating opponents. They're mostly reasonably skilled, but not championship material.

They learn to get beaten, without taking heavy punishment.

I caught most of it. Sharon was fantastic. Clear, eloquent, reasoned. Thank you Sharron. I have daughters and worry a lot about how things will be for them in the future. I hope they appreciate what people like Sharron are trying to do here