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Anyone a lifelong feminist who wasn't a tomboy?

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HarpyValley · 27/06/2023 15:58

This is something I increasingly muse on, as I see dozens of posts from women here who say "I could so easily have been trans" as they describe a tomboy-ish childhood.

I never really thought of myself as a tomboy. I was lucky enough to be a child in the 70s when it was - or seemed, perhaps with rose-tinted spectacles of nostalgia - perfectly normal to wear trousers and play with my toy garage one day, then a dress and play with Tiny Tears or Sindy the next. The most unease I remember having about my body at that time was that it didn't develop quickly enough compared to my friends; I was a skinny ironing board of a child well up to 14/15. I didn't have lots of friends but those I did have tended to be female rather than male. Physically I was quite risk-averse and not up for the more rough-and-tumble male-driven games. As a horse-mad child I went through phases of playing as a horse (and also a rabbit, after I read Watership Down 😄), but never actually believed I was one.

This isn't to say my childhood was idyllic and problem-free: my dad was an abusive alcoholic with a hair-trigger temper, I was bullied all the way through school, we didn't have much money. But I did grow up with the belief that I could do any job I wanted, that I should earn my own money and be independent. I knew from a very early age that I didn't want children, didn't want to play a maternal role. Then in my late teens, around Sixth Form age, I discovered feminism and never left it. I read The Women's Room, devoured Virago books, discovered Angela Carter and Margaret Atwood and Germaine Greer...I was, have always been and still am happy to declare myself a feminist, even when the word has attracted negative connotations in some people's eyes.

I've never wanted to be a boy or a man, even when exposed to sexism, sexual assault (thankfully comparatively minor) or any other sex-based discrimination. I don't think I would have been ripe to be trans as a child or teen. But I'm not 'cis'. I don't have a gender identity. I'm just me. I have always been me, and that me has always been female, regardless of any insecurities about my body I've had at various times of my life.

Can anyone else here relate?

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Froodwithatowel · 27/06/2023 16:09

Me. <raises hand>

Happily embraced whatever I wanted as a kid with no judgement from me or anyone else as to whether it meant anything. Dolls, dresses, jeans, trees, fixing cars with my dad, ballet, total mix. It was just me enjoying whatever I was interested in, and no pressure from adults with agendas. Raised in a belief that I'd pick a career and be financially independent, was the first person in the family ever to go to university, never mind the first female person.

I did struggle like hell with growing breasts, was not impressed with periods and had particularly horrible ones, having a female body has its downsides but without much choice I got on with it and found the resilience to manage. And another hiccup in discovering I was homosexual, but again got my head around it, as you do as you grow into young adulthood. Discovered feminism at university through a very good course in linguistics, was interested but not particularly fired up. Someone else's problem, I didn't have the life experience to get engaged.

It's been motherhood, a working life and life experience that has gradually taught me awareness of the issues that exclusively impact women and get in their way. Friends, colleagues and clients living with or escaping domestic violence, the rotten end of the stick in separations divorce and childcare, birth trauma, fighting their way through to resources for their child with SEND so often alone, different faiths and cultures meaning its very hard to access public life and manage the freedoms other women take for granted, sexual assault and harassment for the crime of being in possession of female biology in a space where a male feels entitled and sees a chance of getting away with it....

But I didn't get fed up until I saw a group of mens activists in a sexual rights movement wanting to dictate to women that their feelings mattered (and women's didn't) and they were very sad so women should abandon their own needs and take care of them, and it was very hard for them (but the women's hardships didn't matter) so women should do what they said, and that some of them getting raped, assaulted and hurt didn't matter because men would be happier, and its fine for women who have been abused, are autistic, have trauma, have faiths and cultures that can be easily 'othered' when inconvenient etc to be excluded so that men can have what they want all the time without responsibility or expectation to take equal care for others as they demand for themselves.

Now I'm bloody furious and very engaged.

That pissed me off. Hugely.

LaBefana · 27/06/2023 16:06

Well, I can't say I have literally been a lifelong feminist, because I only started consciously thinking and feeling that way when I was about 10. I don't think I was a 'tomboy' as a kid, at least not in dress. I've always had, among my hobbies, some that seem stereotypically 'male', such as information technology/coding, electronics, railways, planes, motorcycles (but not so much cars) I'm almost fanatically interested in electrical engineering,. These things have led some girls and women to call me 'boyish' which I strongly object to.

WarriorN · 27/06/2023 16:04

Was quite a dare devil though. Liked bombing about on bolting horses.

WarriorN · 27/06/2023 16:01

Very similar experiences (also played horses with younger sister I'm sure till around 13/14, except it became all about running a stables, designing jumps and painting basic hobby horses out of sticks and card) - except that my father wasn't abusive. I'm so sorry you experienced that.

WarriorN · 27/06/2023 15:59

Yes I was . 🙌