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Christine and the Queens - at Glastonbury

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NotHavingIt · 26/06/2023 07:42

I'd never been fully aware of Christine and The Queens ( Heloise Letissier) before her set at Glastonbury on Saturday, but the complete performance of her new album was pretty phenomenal and worth a watch ( Link to BBC IPlayer below).

As I understand it she has recently 'come out' as a transman and sometimes now uses the stage name of 'Redcar'. Up until recently she has been experimenting and performing as a woman playing with 'masculine tropes'.

She has been in a relationship with a woman called 'Ocean' who has herself now transitioned - but in her case she has documented, on French TV, her transition journey, involving recovery from a mastectomy and the use of testosterone ( she was a good looking woman, not so much as a man).

Heloise says, in an interview I've read, that people keep suggesting to her ways she could do 'being a transman' better - by which she assumes they mean 'top surgery', hormones and cutting her hair short and so on - but she has held back because she says she doesn't feel the need to do all of that to explore her 'transness'. Good on her, and hopefully she holds out on that.

Her performance at Glastonbury was extraordinary. True art; although at times just a little bit mental. It involves numerous interior monologues as she documents her recent experiences ( and traumas) around her mother dying, her mental health struggles, suicide ideation, sex, and finally her re-birth as a boy.

She strips off her waistcoat near the beginning of the set to reveal intact breasts ( I was getting nervous that would not be the case at that point) but with her nipples covered with plasters ( this must have been on BBC guidance, as I think a public display of nipples on a woman is what is considered offensive, whereas not for a man). She performed the rest of the set topless.

So much food for thought and reflection on the back of this stage set - but as peice of complete art it was pretty amazing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0ft6v6z

BBC Music - Glastonbury, 2023, Christine and the Queens

A charismatic and mesmerising performance of electro-pop goodness.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0ft6v6z

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AlisonDonut · 26/06/2023 08:22

Yes she is very talented and such a great performer, I saw her first Glasto performance and was mesmerised.

I always prefer women and men to keep their tops on, to be honest.

LlynTegid · 26/06/2023 08:21

Heloise's performance on Jools Holland was probably the best performance of anyone last year on the show.

Beowulfa · 26/06/2023 08:19

My bloke stayed up to watch Glastonbury and was bemused to see a topless woman on stage, but was reassured when the commentators said her name "of course...she's French so that explains it".

Also Slash was really good, but Axl's gone at the game apparently.

Skatingwaiting · 26/06/2023 08:17

I wonder if she’s ever been to Redcar 😄

notsayingmuch · 26/06/2023 08:15

She should come and visit Redcar. Soon, before they burn down the seaside shelters again. It might give her a new perspective on life. Or maybe not. She could have a go on the amusements, at any rate!

LoobiJee · 26/06/2023 08:11

Her Glastonbury set this year is the set she has been touring since last September. You can see clips from her Paris shows on YouTube.

She seems to be on a journey from dancer/singer to performance artist. She’s very interesting. I think of her as a female, French, David Bowie - but with more mental anguish.

Her last Glastonbury performance (she’s performed there twice) was absolutely fantastic. No small part of the enjoyment was seeing how happy and full of life she was in that performance.

I didn’t know her mother had died, that’s very sad.

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