Two 14yo girls write to Gillian Keegan

That's a brilliant and articulate letter. If adults helped them refine the wording of what they needed to say, that hardly counts as 'deceit' @thelionthewitchtheaudacityofTHISbitch . It's support. There's ample adult support for teens who accept the trans movement, so why not for those who reject it?

The other day we heard the two schoolgirls in Rye College were fake, but they were real. They sounded very mature to me and I couldn’t believe they were only 13.

They also told us the naked man in Wi Spa was fake, but it was real.

I’d find it surprising that the TT website would risk their reputation on a lie. It would discredit them.

I wonder if these sort of letters ever get to be seen by the actual minister. In my experience ministers' private offices are staffed by young, woke, ambitious, pronoun-bearing people who might be tempted not to pass on all correspondence as they have to weed out the 'nutters'.

The UK has an average reading age of NINE years old.

I'm not sure where you got this information from, or if things have changed dramatically in the last 10 years or so, but that's not what this survey published in 2012 says.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/36000/12-p168-2011-skills-for-life-survey.pdf

Eighty five per cent of respondents achieved Level 1 or above in literacy, with 15 per cent performing at Entry Level 3 or below.

57 per cent of respondents achieved a Level 2 or above score in literacy

From the glossary: Entry Level 3 is the national school curriculum equivalent for attainment at age 9-11, Level 1 is equivalent to GCSE grades D-G and Level 2 is equivalent to GCSE grades A*-C.

So 57% of adults have literacy levels at or above the level of GCSE A*-C, and only 15% at or below the level of a 9-11 year old child. From this, the average (median) looks to be around GCSE grade C.

(Sorry for the derail.)

If I had been advising the girls, I would have suggested ‘ostracism’ rather than ‘ostracisation’, but the rest of it just shows what intelligence and good education can produce.

I think that a couple of 14 year olds would be capable of writing that letter. It may be that they had some help, or advice, but who cares? They've written of their experience and the ways in which they feel it's unfair.

Children have a sense of unfairness from a young age.

He wasn't non-binary but he definitely identified as a bull, a swan, a shower of coins, an ant...

Sadly for him there are only three genders in ancient Greek.

And in fact writing to a minister is a standard tactic and one I’ve done many times ‘from’ someone experiencing the issue .

It could have been written by them but in reality charities and campaign organisations (and this is for a campaign group) work with people with lived experience and write this sort of material on their behalf. I work in the sector and this is what I do. It will be hopefully based on views of two actual girls but it’s obviously part of a campaign. Which is fine but this is how campaigning works.

Excellent letter by the girls. Why couldn’t they have written it? Many teenage girls can write like that. Many are articulate and can express their thoughts effectively in written word.

Brilliant.

And frankly, compared to the deceit of gaslighting the whole population that men can magically become women, puberty blockers are harmless and that anyone who speaks about facts and science is a dog whistling bigot, even if they did get some adult assistance, it fades into insignificance given the wholesale lies and deceit we're up against.

Go and take a look at English essays writing by high achieving year 9 student. I know a number who could produce this - with research and advice.

Me neither. That has been written by very knowledgeable adult(s). And I think that's a shame - there is enough deceit around this issue - let's not add more.

Brilliant and awe inspiring.

If it wasn't actually written by two 14 year old girls I'm pretty sure many girls are in the situation that their rights are being trashed.
Well done girls we need more young women to speak up and stop all this nonsense!!

It reads to me as very much in the voice of teenage girls. If they didn’t at least produce the first draft I’d be astonished

it’s well evidenced and I suspect they may have had some help with that

Perhaps they got some help. Do you think TRA young campaigners don't? What's your point?

I'm sure it's been overseen. But the point is it relays their experience of censorship and punishment for holding a legal opinion, and for wanting single sex spaces.

I have absolutely no trouble believing that the vast majority of schoolgirls feel exactly as portrayed in that letter. Nor that there are significant number of them who could easily have written it verbatim, actually.

It may or may not be their wording - although some teenagers are hugely articulate - but the experience is definitely theirs.

My DD - IQ of 166 - was able to write like that when even younger. She wrote her first story at the age of 3, corrected her teacher’s spelling at 5, organised a school animal rights protest at 9, and won an essay writing competition at 10.
Not all teenagers are knuckle draggers!

It’ll have been written by the campaign organisation but it will be based on their views and they will have seen it (well that’s how it should work anyway).

The UK has an average reading age of NINE years old. It's perfectly possible for 14 year old girls who know a topic well, to be able to write like this. Probably, most politicians can't write as well as GCSE students.

Brilliant letter. I have so much admiration for the girls speaking up against gender extremism.
Now, that really is stunning and brave. Good for them ❤