Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Teenager guilty of murder.

955 replies

placemats · 23/06/2023 13:26

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/23/teenager-guilty-baby-herefordshire-hide-pregnancy-paris-mayo

Apart from the fact that she was raped, if consent to sex is to be a legal term, I find the prosecutions allegations appalling.

'But the prosecution alleged Mayo must have known she was pregnant but chose to deliberately conceal it because she was always planning to kill the baby.'

Perhaps Mayo didn't get early abortion help she needed. I know of one woman, who had 3 previous children, who didn't realise she was pregnant, thought it was early menopause until 4 weeks before her due date. However to allege she was always planning to kill the baby is a step too far. It intimates that those in authority know this child's mind.

Teenager guilty of murdering baby in Herefordshire to hide pregnancy

Paris Mayo, now 19, violently assaulted newborn in 2019 to stop family finding out about the birth

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jun/23/teenager-guilty-baby-herefordshire-hide-pregnancy-paris-mayo

OP posts:
Thread gallery
44
TripleDaisySummer · 23/06/2023 14:02

Surely this is infanticide not murder?

The jurors had been told they could also consider a charge of infanticide, but took eight hours and 38 minutes to convict Mayo of murder.

That's from the article Op linked to - I don't know why they wouldn't go with infanticide would make more sense with a 15 year old and behavior straight after birth.

placemats · 23/06/2023 13:54

Thank you for both responding to this sympathetically and I wish you all the best @RidiculousBastards

I've had an abortion, in my late 30s, and had to access via a telephone box, BPAS because my UK GP surgery didn't do abortion referrals. No regrets either. I did go on to have another child. I feared a third miscarriage which is why I had the abortion - had two children by then. I had moved from London to a more rural community.

OP posts:
ChirpyChirpyCheepCheepBeep · 23/06/2023 13:49

Surely this is infanticide not murder?

Booklover40 · 23/06/2023 13:42

Oh God, it's just so unbelievably sad. I can't help feeling very sorry for her although what she did was horrific. Id guess she was obviously out of her mind at that moment and acted completely out of character due to shock.

I hope they are sympathetic towards this when giving her punishment, she is clearly going to need a lot of help going forward.

RidiculousBastards · 23/06/2023 13:36

Name changed.

I've been a teenager pregnant after rape. Lucky enough to access abortion. Not lucky enough for anyone to notice I'd been raped. Left with much PTSD not least from the experience at hospital. But NO REGRETS to actual abortion.

I did not, could not, think of what was inside me as a baby. Babies were what happened to my older cousins and celebrated loved and wanted. What was in me was shame and fear and a perversion of how the world was supposed to be ordered. And teenagers are children themselves.