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dimorphism · 22/06/2023 08:17

Walkerbean16 · 22/06/2023 08:13

What I've done to my appearance and my body has almost been a survival tactic or a form of protection against unwanted attention from men,' she said.

This is heartbreaking.

We've all known this is one of the reasons for transition, it's been obvious for a while.

And breast ironing is illegal but removing breasts entirely from children? Apparently fine.

It's blatantly obviously wrong.

Walkerbean16 · 22/06/2023 08:13

What I've done to my appearance and my body has almost been a survival tactic or a form of protection against unwanted attention from men,' she said.

This is heartbreaking.

WarriorN · 22/06/2023 08:12

She took it down but it's being shared on Twitter. The DM piece say they've not confirmed it with her.

Needmoresleep · 22/06/2023 08:12

It appears to have been posted on Wednesday (and reposted on another thread here) then taken down. WarrierN suggests there was backlash on Twitter.

Evidence perhaps that transition is lauded, detransition not.

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ftmquestions · 22/06/2023 08:00

Where is the original video from Milo?

Sugarfree23 · 22/06/2023 07:54

Anyone else notice it's female to male transitioners who seem to have later regrets.
But ultimately nobody should be allowed to have drugs or make changes to their bodies before they are 18, the same as a tattoo.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 22/06/2023 07:51

GrabbyGabby · 22/06/2023 07:47

I cant imagine being thw surgeon who cuts open the body of a young woman and removes healthy breasts. How do you justify that to yourself at the moment you cut into a near child?

Some of them actually seek to revel in it. There’s that psycho surgeon who posts about ‘yeeting the teets’.

GrabbyGabby · 22/06/2023 07:47

I cant imagine being thw surgeon who cuts open the body of a young woman and removes healthy breasts. How do you justify that to yourself at the moment you cut into a near child?

SallyLockheart · 22/06/2023 07:18

This is chilling. There is seemingly little focus on the impact of testosterone on the female body and its impact on female anatomy, so its good to see it spelt out. But terribly sad for Milo.

"Doctors gradually upped her testosterone dose. Over the years, it caused her vagina to atrophy — a common symptom of female-to-male transitioners, who experience dryness, irritation, and bleeding.
Due to the discomfort, last year, aged 21, she underwent a hysterectomy."

WarriorN · 22/06/2023 07:14

There needs to be a responsible public health campaign that's well organised and safeguards the individuals who this affects.

dimorphism · 22/06/2023 07:14

If it wasn't a cult there wouldn't be such a Terrible backlash when people detransition. Acceptance for everyone, unless the truth doesn't fit the narrative.....so not acceptance for physically damaged young people then.

Great comment below the article:

" If you can't drink, smoke or vote- you should NOT be able to change your gender. Period. It's a massive change that should NOT be taken so lightly."

WarriorN · 22/06/2023 07:13

The problem for me is that we don't understand the impact of using these stories when consent hasn't been fully given.

The medical community is failing these individuals doubly as there's zero support.

Even those who willingly speak out struggle.

Whilst it's important to recognise the massive issues with transition and also how the media stoked up, encouraged and love bombed youngsters who decided they're trans as MTV did here, glamourising their stories, they need to be mindful around how the inevitable problems are also used and paraded.

Whilst stories are important as part of public health campaigning there's also an individual behind it who's extremely vulnerable.

Clymene · 22/06/2023 07:05

I feel so desperately sorry for her. Her video was heartbreaking. 14 when she started on testosterone. 14!

Needmoresleep · 22/06/2023 07:04

That does not surprise me. If she has regrets and is detransitioning, she will be cutting herself off from the trans community, and won’t be popular. It will be so difficult to both admit to, what is a huge life changing mistake and and for a clearly vulnerable person to move from being feted at 16 to hated at 22.

In the Mails defence it is terribly important that people are aware that regrets happen, and that 16 is really to young to be able to make such decisions. Hopefully the more and the earlier stories like these are reported, the smaller the number of today’s teenagers who will travel down the same route.

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WarriorN · 22/06/2023 06:51

There's a big differences between doing an interview with a paper and a paper plucking something up from YouTube or twitter.

WarriorN · 22/06/2023 06:50

Articles like this must be doubly traumatising for her.

Gah, it's a fucking mess.

WarriorN · 22/06/2023 06:47

I've seen comments on twitter that she has wanted all videos of her to be taken down due to the backlash she's received.

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