France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

That's because they are. I hope they are getting support for that IRL, but I suspect not.

Oh, and we are still waiting for answer to the excellent question from eresh as to whether two males who are trans can also be a 'lesbian couple'.

I do want to hear suggestions and klaxon give us guidance on that. Maybe they are conferring with Stonewall or something.

So where are we at:

'Lesbians are totally free to go and have their own meetings, marches and conferences!'

Oh... wait... no! Every one of those public events results in those lesbians being harassed, threatened, assaulted, protested and cancelled. So that is in reality FALSE.

'Next we have the doubling down on the assertions that a person who some people agree with, some don't (but is our leader!!) is associating with NAZIS.'

Oh.... wait.... no! Because if that gem of an insight holds true, then actually there are now whole groups of LGBT people AND socialists AND ANTIFA who are also aligned with nazi people. So that one to in reality is FALSE.

Guilt by association is never a great tactic.

@Datun;
"someone try so hard to get lesbians to accept dick.

Nazi bollocks, ringleaders, dehumanisation, appeals to authority, anecdotes, your mates and too many slurs to shake a stick at.

Seriously. It's never going to happen. Lesbians don't like men's cocks. They think they're yucky. Soz."

Yup, it's ridiculous. We don't like dick and the men attached to them!
Hell, at my old lesbian group there was a transwoman (man) who had his dick cut off ( so he joyously informed us 😫). He was still a creepy man and of course no one would date him.

Please say who the ring leaders are as this is the first I've heard of them. Safety for women is very important.

Late to the party but my word, is this yet another one who just can't stop thinking about KJK.

I love that she lives rent free in so many folk's heads, it's delicious.

👏👏😂

oh....no.... Hepwo, Klaxon wasn't talking about Melbourne. I assume they realised just exactly as you say.

And that those men spent more time ( I timed it) down with the Victorian socialists then they did anywhere near the women. And when they were near the women, they were also near the trans activists. And in fact, there were trans activists in amongst the women!

I know..... it is mind blowing isn't it when the reality is revealed.

Those Melbourne Nazis must be aligned with the Victorian Socialists and ANTIFA who was down that end where the Neo nazi group spent the MOST time.

And ANYONE who agrees that paedophiles should never be around children is also ALIGNED!

There are actually some limited areas where I think there are issues to be resolved, but I think they can be resolved without claiming trans women are men and trans men are women

No one needs to claim either of those two things, they just are.

The "claim" is the other way around. That men are women and women are men.

I know.

is it desperation or is it deliberate.

But transphobes are actively backed by nazis. If you don't like it, perhaps you lot should do more to stop them rocking up to support your 'rallies'.

The Nazis that showed up in Melbourne had one banner which said stop pedophiles.

I'm going to assume tea disagrees with that banner.

I know young lesbians are being terrorised by all this and feel for the loss of the freedom, venues and opportunities us older lesbians had access to back in the day.

On here, when I look at some of the intense anti - women, lesbophobic posts - I still reckon, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck then it's likely.........

As MNHQ advise: "we always ask users to remember that not everyone on the internet is who they say they are"

Auckland? Fucking hell. She barely got out in one piece, and you are expecting her to have undertaken a detailed clothing audit of the entire mob.

Honestly, the desperation can't be good for you really.

Men aren't women.

No, and I still don't!! 🤣

Christ almighty @TeaKlaxon, I've never seen someone try so hard to get lesbians to accept dick.

Nazi bollocks, ringleaders, dehumanisation, appeals to authority, anecdotes, your mates and too many slurs to shake a stick at.

Seriously. It's never going to happen. Lesbians don't like men's cocks. They think they're yucky. Soz.

Go out and smell the flowers.

There's more to life.

I think there has to be a 100 mile exclusion zone before you are able to declare unNazi status.

I'm heading out tonight with some special cones. I may be a while.

Again with the dehumanising language.

And again with the completely lack of ability to understand reality. There is no way for any group to 'stop them rocking up' to an unticketed event held in the public spaces.

FFS Where is your ability to critically think. All that you have done here today is parrot complete bollocks off twitter. That is all you seem to have.

Show me how Pride will stop any group of person they disagree with from attending their events. Do they have a magical radar that will deflect unwanted people from standing and watching or listening?

Really? If they have one, how have they programmed it to include every single person on the fucking planet that they don't share a completely aligned belief system with.

Because fucking hell, and this is wonderful, they can make zillions off that technology.

Bring it on I say! It would stop all espionage and no more wars.

It's so pathetic. I remember when straight men would say they were ' a Lesbian inside ' to screw Lesbians and it was fucking ridiculous then!

Pride is now a Queer, Pansexual+ event and that's fine.

We Lesbians have our secret Underground
So No Validation for you TeaKlaxon bwahaha

Great that you are 'nearly getting it' as you like to keep saying.

All violence at PP’s Auckland event in March was only carried out by trans rights activists and their supporters (all male-bodied people), and much of it was caught on camera.

No violence was carried out by women, who just wanted to hear women speak.

Jeez yeah now you mention it, maybe the Nazis were actually there in support of trans people.

<quietly places hot sweet tea next to TeaKlaxon>

it feels like when the adrenaline dies down you’re going to need this

"Do you think they were protesting Posie?"

I don't know. Do you have evidence either way?

No?

They are likely to have attended to stir up trouble. They like to do that. But hey, your extremely prejudiced take MUST be true. Even without a skerrick of evidence to support it.

"Honestly, you're about three posts away from saying 'Sure how could she have known what all those masked men wearing far right symbols and sieg heiling really believed'."

Fuck. Really? Do you actually think that Kellie Jay Keen even saw those people? Have you even seen the footage? She was assaulted as soon as she arrived and just as she was surrounded by security on the way in, she was surrounded by security on the way out. And spitting, kicking and screaming people who are proud to have protested women speaking.

Crikey, do you honestly believe that you are convincing people here on this thread?

or do you just like to throw around completely unfounded and completely ill-logical personal attacks at people?

I am not three posts away from anything. There really is some kind of disconnect here in your thinking.

This really has been a great demonstration.