France - women only lesbian groups banned from Pride events

But sure, tell us more about how you lot know more about lesbians that the likes of Sandy Toksvig or Nancy Kelley.

I'm confident that I have more first-hand experience of dating as a lesbian in the current climate than either Sandy Toksvig or Nancy Kelley, both of whom have been married for years.

Why should the views of famous lesbians who don't have to concern themselves with dating carry more weight than the quieter lesbians who are just trying to live their lives and hopefully find a female partner in the process?

It's not fair to keep throwing out the same names as "experts" in lesbianism - if you are a lesbian, then by all means, share your own experience, but to suggest that x, y and z people are the absolute authority on the views of all lesbians is absurd and insulting.

I can tell you Lesbians are already self-excluding into secret social groups.

Yes we are! My secret group of lesbian and bi-sexual women are meeting tonight....it's shame we have to keep it secret and it makes me angry that if we were to declare publicly that this group exists then we'd be vilified for not allowing biological men attend but that's what we have to do to ensure that nobody with a penis feels they have a right to be there.

So I can understand. A lesbian is only welcome at Pride for if they are the sort that will have sex with a person with a penis, I.e a man? But if she categorically is same sex attracted then she's transphobic?

Sorry to say, the only demonstration here is of your own lack of ability to think critically. And your own prejudice.

Your prejudice if it as represented in your posts are some of the deepest that I have seen on MN. So I would hope it is all just performance or your adopted style of writing and not reality.

I guess if you applied your very same logic to all conferences and protests,

I imagine that Labour Party speakers at any conference could be called some kind of slur because there will be people in the audience who are considered that slur and will get photos taken.

Imagine what any sportsperson could be called. Blimey! Imagine those LGBT spokespeople’s list of slurs.

Imagine any news reporter or gosh… any fucking person who worked with another for any reason.

All because you think guilt by association when it is someone with horrific views attending a conference that others speak at is a valid excuse to accuse someone of wrongdoing.

At least you admit you made the accusation because you read it somewhere and believed it without any further information. That says a lot about you and what you post.

It is like you have followed a script of saying all the things you have read on other platforms that you found a great ‘gotcha’, without ever scratching beyond the surface.

Tea seems to be male and cannot answer the argument that women's bodies are different and important for Lesbians who are repulsed physically by male ones!

So you’re not going to address the fact that you’re claiming men are lesbians then?

I always come back to how psychologically painful it must be to find yourself on the internet ardently arguing that black is white and that anyone who disagrees with you is <insert pejorative here>

don’t you ever wonder how you got yourself into this position @TeaKlaxon ?

Tea argues like a 14 year old.

This is a message board. It’s literally impossible to ‘shout anyone down’.

But you believe that any heterosexual man who says he's a lesbian is one. Yeah, right...

I mean thanks for demonstrating the very many nazis that one of the leaders of your movement is associated with.

I wasn’t actually thinking of those examples - I wasn’t even aware of the Norwegian nazi. Poor old Posie seems to have a bit of a track record in attracting Nazis by your account.

He's a man though?

You are the one shouting down people that don't regard men as lesbians tea.

You are the one claiming men are real lesbians.

Your confusion is very apparent and it seems to make you very angry with people that are not as confused as you.

Hehe women understand the importance of our wonderful, beautiful amazing bodies; we menstruate, ovulate, can gestate children and go through menopause.

They understand why I can love and celebrate them as a Lesbian 💜

Let’s see.

Have you seen any posts that dehumanise trans people? If you have please report them. Right now. Because that should not happen. I believe in your polarised view though, and this could be wrong, that you believe anyone who doesn’t recognise a male as the woman they say they are, or a woman as the man they say they are, in every instance, then they are dehumanising trans people.

That is purely a product of polarised ideological belief.

TRA = trans rights activists.

Activists are human. It is an inherent human trait.

“lot” = anything in a group. Anything.

I do get it! You have repeatedly shown your contempt for any person who doesn’t agree with you.

However, that projection you try to accuse people of, doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. Not unusual though.

Yep - the vast majority of lesbians are wrong about lesbianism. You know who the real expert in lesbianism is? Graham Linehan.

You lot are genuinely off your rockers with this nonsense.

I've reported that, too far.

But sure, tell us more about how you lot know more about lesbians that the likes of Sandy Toksvig or Nancy Kelley.

Both of those women sold their knowledge to men who binned it, and they replaced it with the knowledge the men gave them along with the money.

Here's a first-hand account from a woman who was present at the Let Women Speak event in Melbourne: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/how-they-smeared-posie-in-melbourne

Literally everything you posted about me is a projection of the MO of transphobes - dehumanise trans people and ‘TRAs’ (in much nastier ways than ‘you lot’ btw), rely on exaggerated claims free from evidence etc.

The projection is strong.

Sorry. Attended a conference that KJK spoke at.

No no! Remember the ‘Nazi’ rumours originated from ONE article that pointed out that in Norway a man who is considered a ‘Nazi’ attended . And fuck! Even took a photo with her.

It was on the wiki page and had been brought up on this board many times. And we went through it and debunked it. So one male poster even supposedly wrote to that man to get confirmation. None ever came. And the male poster miraculously disappeared after having it all laid out and that poster look like a person who could not critically think through an issue for themselves.

Australian nazis? When the same logic was applied to their appearance as being used to align the women, those Nazis were just as aligned with the Victorian Socialist party as the women. Hence, that accusation has died away. An MP is even launching a defamation case about that accusation.

But it could be another ‘Nazi’ person that klaxon is thinking of. We may as well get them all out.

TeaKlaxon doesn't seem to understand that we Lesbians love women's bodies; breasts, necks, vulvas and clitorises. They give life too; so awesome .Women even smell different than men.

Men are socialized differently and their bodies are disgusting! Cocks, balls , etc. Men are physically repulsive!

So enjoy being trans and gender-attracted .

Women's bodies are important and beautiful!
And we Lesbians love them 💜

Are you deliberately lying about what happened in Australia or just spouting stuff that you are ignorant about?

100 notches. Ah, it's at the bottom now.