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ReunitedThorns · 20/06/2023 09:34

I have some sympathy for the man in question, the same as I have for any other addict (drink, drugs, gambling etc), it's a conscience decision to go down that path, but then it takes over. And like other addicts family members etc are victims of the behaviour.

Unfortunately the selfish behaviour comes from society that doesn't treat it as an addiction but rather an LGBT+ rights issue that treats everyone else as bigots. He's a victim because society won't say what he's really dealing with, but rather pretend that it is "gender identity". He's also a victim of medical malpractice, anorexics aren't given gastric bypasses, so why do these men get "gender affirming" treatment?

There should be treatment, like there is for gambling addiction, and how to get men off of this behaviour. A gambling addict isn't given affirming treatment (such as taxpayer money for more gambling).

It is an addiction, treat it as such and treat families as you would treat families of addicts.

dimorphism · 20/06/2023 09:22

And yes, kudos to Tinsel for all she has done to highlight the insanity and abuse.

We need to hear more and more transwidows voices. And the state needs to stop aiding and abetting these men in their abuse of their wives and children.

So sad to hear that one of the children had such horrendous mental health consequences from her father's selfish actions. His actions are just not being a good parent, it's being an abusive parent no matter what 'gender' the father is. The father is behaving abusively to his kids and gets a free pass because 'trans'.

Don't get me started on NHS resources going to fund these men's destructive abusive delusions.

dimorphism · 20/06/2023 09:16

Brefugee · 20/06/2023 08:29

One of the things that never ever ceases to make me angry in these stories is how the transitioning partner treats their own children. We are always told (often on here) "you're a mother now, you have to put your children first"

I guess that's a part of womanhood they're not interested in?

Yes they're not at all interested in the life of a real woman or becoming a real woman (largely, there are some 'old school' transsexuals for whom this may not be true) - the childcare, the unpaid labour, the giving a tiny shit about the impact you're having on your kids.

They're interested in being an incel's idea of a woman, that's all.

EmpressaurusOfCats · 20/06/2023 09:12

(Was it Jane Fae who told his daughter about his cross dressing just before her GCSEs?)

I think it might have been D Hayton.

NashvilleQueen · 20/06/2023 09:10

The stock photos in the article are terrible!

But I agree with the sentiment.

Maddy70 · 20/06/2023 09:08

Twoshoesnewshoes · 20/06/2023 08:56

Just the visuals on the link there are so offensive. Hmmm, red stilettos, all it takes to become a woman.
hands up who wears red stilettos??
it’s just old, crap gender stereotypes over and over, I’m sick of it.
ok
rant over
off to have a cuppa

I agree. However it is a Daily Mail piece. I wouldn't expect anything less

OhHolyJesus · 20/06/2023 09:07

I'm so sorry for this woman and her kids and what her husband/their father put them through for his own sexual gratification. What unmeasurable selfishness that is. I'm pleased she is free of him and in a new relationship and I'm also pleased stories like this are now hitting the national press. The financial burden, fear and stress! No wonder she ended up in hospital and her poor kids, I feel for them as it happened when they were teenagers and already struggling with that.

(Was it Jane Fae who told his daughter about his cross dressing just before her GCSEs?)

Kudos to Tinsel and all she has done for years now to raise awareness of the very real situations these women, and their children, bear.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 20/06/2023 08:56

Just the visuals on the link there are so offensive. Hmmm, red stilettos, all it takes to become a woman.
hands up who wears red stilettos??
it’s just old, crap gender stereotypes over and over, I’m sick of it.
ok
rant over
off to have a cuppa

NotHavingIt · 20/06/2023 08:52

absorption

NotHavingIt · 20/06/2023 08:51

These cross dressing men become like addicts if their obsession is allowed to take-over. Hence the self absorbption and narcissism, and total disregard for anyone or anything else.

HootyMcBooby76 · 20/06/2023 08:47

Even in stories like this though, still with the language that he "became" a woman.
When will someone have the balls (pun intended) to clarify that men cannot actually become women?

Comments overwhelmingly in favour of GC views it seems.
A few sparkly people saying how stunning and brave he was by "living his true life" etc.

53andABitPodgy · 20/06/2023 08:30

They are well rid of him. Hopefully he doesn’t crawl out from under the stone anytime soon sans stilettos and fishnets.

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Brefugee · 20/06/2023 08:29

One of the things that never ever ceases to make me angry in these stories is how the transitioning partner treats their own children. We are always told (often on here) "you're a mother now, you have to put your children first"

I guess that's a part of womanhood they're not interested in?

Florissante · 20/06/2023 08:22

That poor family.

Rightsraptor · 20/06/2023 08:20

It's terrible to read that, but not at all a surprise to those of us who read Tinsel Angel's transwidows thread..

SallyLockheart · 20/06/2023 08:10

i read that - really sad about the reality of living with and then divorcing a trans identifying male. What is really striking is how utterly self absorbed and selfish the husband has been - total disregard even to his children's wellbeing. Some of that is being trans though some could be just be being a complete man-twat.

the point she made about lack of support while he had nhs led trans support etc was quite poignant

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