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Thank you, thank you, thank you

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h1d1ng1npla1ns1ght · 19/06/2023 05:21

I’m a gender critical feminist and I’ve recently stopped caring at all what men think. I don’t even start conversations about it, I just refuse to censor myself or let myself be silenced anymore. I have had open conversations with my female friends, and we all agree, but are rarely brave enough to talk in public about our sex-based abuse, discrimination, rights, and protections. I have been reading GC and radical feminist books voraciously, and I’m still self-conscious in public and nervous about what people will say. It is exhausting being a woman. It’s a bit less exhausting when you feel like you have an understanding, strong community of like-minded women around you. It was this lurking on this page that emboldened me. So, thank you, ladies. Thank you for giving me the guts to speak up, or at least to stop shutting up.

OP posts:
YoucancallmeKAREN · 19/06/2023 14:42

MishyJDI · 19/06/2023 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

No, too busy fighting for the truth to be told.

Tropicaldi · 19/06/2023 14:33

Thelnebriati · 19/06/2023 14:29

If someone is bothering you, try walking a mile in their shoes.

Now you are a mile away; and have their shoes.

😂 They definitely can’t catch up with you now.

ArabeIIaScott · 19/06/2023 14:30

TeamKenwood · 19/06/2023 13:58

Also a longtime lurker. Decloaking to salute the fine women of FWR.

Every sticker I do, I do it for you.

MON THE LURKERS!!!!

Thelnebriati · 19/06/2023 14:29

If someone is bothering you, try walking a mile in their shoes.

Now you are a mile away; and have their shoes.

peachescariad · 19/06/2023 14:15

WickedSerious · 19/06/2023 14:08

I'd look ridiculous in size 12 stilettos.

LOVE this! 😍

Tropicaldi · 19/06/2023 14:11

Congratulations OP! Liberation!

WickedSerious · 19/06/2023 14:08

MishyJDI · 19/06/2023 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

I'd look ridiculous in size 12 stilettos.

spiderplantparty · 19/06/2023 14:00

MishyJDI · Today 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

Do Trans people ever stop to think about how their actions affect others? The impression I get is that transactivists are very aggressive about pushing trans rights without considering how they may impact on other people, although I appreciate transactivists may not represent the whole trans population. Maybe we could meet somewhere half way? Perhaps third spaces?

YouJustDoYou · 19/06/2023 14:00

TeamKenwood · 19/06/2023 13:58

Also a longtime lurker. Decloaking to salute the fine women of FWR.

Every sticker I do, I do it for you.

I love this

TeamKenwood · 19/06/2023 13:58

Also a longtime lurker. Decloaking to salute the fine women of FWR.

Every sticker I do, I do it for you.

murasaki · 19/06/2023 13:58

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SarahShorty · 19/06/2023 13:57

The way I see is that the LGB people were fine up until the Ts came along. And then the Qs. And then all varying shades of mental illness left incubating in the mess became all too apparent. I'm not a feminist, so I'm not a TERF, though I'm also not a TRA. TERFs only exist now because of the Ts infiltrating LGB. I suppose I am GC, though. There are only 2 genders, or rather, there are only 2 sexes and gender is a made-up word that is used to described masculine women, ie tomboys and effeminate men, ie whatever the word is for that, if it exists.

If you're gay, that's fine. If you're lesbian, that's fine. Just don't tell me you can switch sex and ignore your biology, because I won't give you an easy time of it.

Thelnebriati · 19/06/2023 13:57

How does it go? ''The comments under any feminist post prove the need for feminism.''

Keep up the good work, everyone! Grin

SinnerBoy · 19/06/2023 13:54

MishyJDI · Today 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Do YOU not ever stop and think about not posting fact-free, entirely unsubstantiated rubbish?

No transw has, not ever will experience misogyny, which only women are unfortunate enough to be subjected to.

Doing a double take, or disagreeing politely is most emphatically NOT transphobic abuse.

HTH.

whereaw · 19/06/2023 13:53

@AmbleInAnnBoleyn thank you so much for the advice! I will look in to it.

AmbleInAnnBoleyn · 19/06/2023 13:51

whereaw · 19/06/2023 13:40

My little girl (2) has been suffering terribly with vulvar and vaginal irritation at night, and it make me so mad to think that a female's true felt and lived experiences, which start from birth, are being appropriated by men and reduced to a mere identity.
She doesn't identify as anything, yet, and here she is impacted by her sex. Female. Which she will continue to be no matter what she does going forward.

Hopping on here to suggest a course of Ovex for worms. Ask the pharmacist for the liquid as DD is still little and probably can't take tablets.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 19/06/2023 13:47

Keep going MishyJDI
You are doing our job for us.

YouJustDoYou · 19/06/2023 13:42

MishyJDI · 19/06/2023 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

THE most protected minority in the country who can get away with basically anything they want, as evidenced in many, many, many youtubes videos of them, are doing perfectly fine. They only have to breathe to the police that their feelings have been hurt and 5 cops turn up to arrest you (as opposed to say being burgled/mugged and they give a crime number and don't even bother to attend).

whereaw · 19/06/2023 13:40

My little girl (2) has been suffering terribly with vulvar and vaginal irritation at night, and it make me so mad to think that a female's true felt and lived experiences, which start from birth, are being appropriated by men and reduced to a mere identity.
She doesn't identify as anything, yet, and here she is impacted by her sex. Female. Which she will continue to be no matter what she does going forward.

Hoppinggreen · 19/06/2023 13:40

MishyJDI · 19/06/2023 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

If they are facing abuse and misogyny then I think most of us have spent more time in their shoes than they have

YouJustDoYou · 19/06/2023 13:39

WinterTrees · 19/06/2023 08:13

Mmm, gosh - what must it be like to be constantly abused? No woman could possibly ever imagine...

Ha! Right? Women have NEVER been constantly abused and subjected to misogyny, how ever could we understand?

Florissante · 19/06/2023 13:38

piedbeauty · 19/06/2023 13:34

Why don't you start your own thread instead of derailing this one?

That's not Mishy's style.

piedbeauty · 19/06/2023 13:34

MishyJDI · 19/06/2023 08:09

Do you not ever stop and think how exhausting it is for trans-people being constantly abused and also facing misogyny?

Sometimes it is also important to put yourself in others' shoes.

Why don't you start your own thread instead of derailing this one?

AmuseBish · 19/06/2023 13:32

^"tell me to", not "feel me to"!

In my experience people see the gender ideology for the sexist claptrap it is - it relies on "female correlating with feminine", for God's sake - or they are very, very muddled about it. Most tend to be sympathetic for people with actual gender dysphoria, but we know that trans people say that is irrelevant to being trans.

AmuseBish · 19/06/2023 13:28

Mishy not knowing the answer to literally any questions I ask them helped to cement in my mind how many people are being dishonest about this.

I don't indulge dishonest people (by which I mean people who feel me to think things that they can't even define).