No Terfs on our Turf

I went to Cardiff recently and it was honestly crazy, I left angry and anxious because of the level of this nonsense everywhere! I only live 30mins away from there, but it's worlds apart from my quiet, sleepy little valley town!

Tbh, seeing as it's quite a Stonewally slogan, I'd probably ask them if they agree with Stonewall that it's morally unsound to be sexually orientated towards one sex.

The only investment I'd make with this shop is popping in to tell the manager what I thought of his discriminatory policy and how it's breaking the law, and how I'd publicise the shop policy to high heavens to get maximum fallout.

This is how I think it has to go. As each court case (like Maya's and Bindel's various) inches policy towards sanity, individual episodes on the battlefield of TRA versus reality will still explode like IEDs in a real war.

Can you give us a definition of TERF please?

Anyone who thinks sex is real, that males in women's sport is grossly unfair, that rapists can identify out of a men's jail and are persecuted if forced to stay there and that middle aged men getting their wangers out around young girls in changing rooms is massively 'off'?

Just so we know where we all stand.

Cos if you define it like that, you end up being the ones who look like a bunch of cockends.

I'm dubious about anyone in the UK using the old-fashioned "turf" to mean neighbourhood.

I first read it in the evangelical books about the New York teenage gangs in the 50s (The Cross and the Switchblade, Run Baby Run). Mind you, those kids were stabbing each other. They were anti-police, too.

I suppose the modern day ones want to seem edgy. Weird that they'd appropriate 50s gang culture, though. Do they have anything that isn't second hand?

Good stuff. I took screenshots, too.

Indeed. Their Insta is being archived for evidence.

Looks great, I'll make sure to visit next time I'm in Cardiff👍

Based on the pictures on their Instagram, just on the link posted here, the "no TERFS on our turf" comment directly conflict with/contradicts several of their other slogans painted on the doors and windows - namely "Pride is for everyone and don't let anyone tell you any different!" which I assume is in support of the lesbians and others who have been bullied away from Pride by alleged "TRAs", and "No cops at Pride" (referring to police arresting lesbians for attending) and "All welcome here!" Further, "To all our queer friends and family!", "you are enough", "you are loved" and "we celebrate you" suggest they DO want to be inclusive and NOT misogynist and lesbophobic/homophobic despite what the TERF comment says. There's even a very "TERFy" "no thanks!" in there.

Perhaps a rogue child got a hold of the paints and made the bigoted, exclusionarly "no TERFS" comment, and no one in chage has noticed yet?

I had a brief look at their Instagram. They celebrated “Empathy Day”, whatever that may mean, but clearly their empathy doesn’t extend to women.

Perfect marketing strategy then.

Bit silly when TERFs are probably the demographic who buys most books (I'm counting myself in there).

I find it disappointing they describe themselves as feminist when they are so obviously anti-women

Ah well. You didn't read their Insta properly.

Non-profit radical bookshop in Canton, Cardiff.
Radical, adjective 2)
advocating or based on thorough or complete political or social change; representing or supporting an extreme or progressive section of a political party.

Their Twitter header image doesn't actually show any books, or the shop interior either. Just a bunch of slogans, including the ironically revealing "feminists for trans rights". My own feminism is for women, actually!

They are on Twitter as well......... https://twitter.com/shelflifecdf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Yes, Eresh, precisely.

However if the bookshop wants to volunteer as a further test case I'm sure that will be noted.

The holding of the belief is.....but the manifestation of that belief is yet, untested.

What complete nonsense. Read the judgment in the second Forstater tribunal, post the EAT. There are various examples of manifestation of gender critical belief assessed by the panel.

😂

Agree completely. I’m guessing that the staff are all about 19 years old and very thick.

The holding of the belief is.....but the manifestation of that belief is yet, untested. Caution is required. Unless one wants to be a test case digging vegies!

I would leave a factual review. After all it would be a pity if someone who believes in biological sex or is against castration of children made a special trip to go there and then couldn’t go in.

This. Most of us are MERFs, not TERFs. I don't exclude anyone's gender identity from feminism, because it's impossible to define anyway. Any female should be included in feminism.

Joke's on you, lads: that sign would probably make me more likely to go in, if I were passing by and had a chunk of time free. Not to buy anything, of course - I'm boycotting bigots - but perhaps I could find a new use for my keenly-honed book-arranging skills which have been languishing underutilised since Farage's and Hannan's works disappeared after Brexit.

Yes, but possibly they could argue it's a slogan expressing a political viewpoint rather than a "you're not allowed in the shop" sign.