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Adam Kay

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AsTreesWalking · 18/06/2023 12:27

Anyone hear Desert Island Discs this morning? He's quite an interesting fellow, who resigned as a doctor in obstetrics because he couldn't bear his grief over deaths of babies and mothers.
Imagine my surprise-disbelief- to hear that he and his husband have 2 babies under a year old from 2 surrogate mothers. And he actually said that he hopes the children will forgive any mistakes they will make...

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RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 15:32

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 15:31

It's not gallows humour. It's someone who is so fucking offensive he should be cancelled, and who we can only be greatful no longer goes anywhere near a vulnerable woman's body. Abuse isn't just smacking your girlfriend round after you've had a drink. Adam Kay abused women every time he opens his sad mouth to talk about them.

Abusing women is fair game. It's allowed.

It's something to be celebrated for, not cancelled.

Lottapianos · 18/06/2023 15:32

What he thinks about elderly women:

“with pelvic floors like quicksand and their uteri stalactite-ing into their thermals... And then a patient sneezes, you have to get a mop and bucket.”'

Women's bodies are so fucking hilarious, aren't they, when you don't have to live in one

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 15:31

It's not gallows humour. It's someone who is so fucking offensive he should be cancelled, and who we can only be greatful no longer goes anywhere near a vulnerable woman's body. Abuse isn't just smacking your girlfriend round after you've had a drink. Adam Kay abused women every time he opens his sad mouth to talk about them.

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 15:29

What he thinks about elderly women:

“with pelvic floors like quicksand and their uteri stalactite-ing into their thermals... And then a patient sneezes, you have to get a mop and bucket.”

littleripper · 18/06/2023 15:28

He breached patient confidentiality repeatedly and traumatised women who had PTSD from a traumatic birth and then had him write about it for laughs and mega bucks. He is utterly repulsive.

Hardfoughtbattles · 18/06/2023 15:26

JanesLittleGirl · 18/06/2023 13:54

If you want to know what a sensitive, caring human being he is, read the lyrics to songs such as 'Your Baby', 'Menstrual Rag', or 'Nothing at All'.

Just read the lyrics, he's fucking awful.

littleripper · 18/06/2023 15:24

Here is a song Adam Kay wrote and performed for years:

This is a national service announcement for all men
If you go to Bolton
If you go to Manchester
Or crewe
Newcastle, or Scarborough
York, or Scunthorp, Bradford, Barnsley too
Or Grimsby
Listen up to what we have to say
Northern birds are lazy ugly whores who smell of burgers
So don't have too much to drink
Or you might fuck one
And end up getting aids
There's nothing fun
To be found off the M1
Northern birds are lower class
Slags who take it up the arse
They're in the sack
After one cider and black
But they're fucking awful rides
and your dick won't touch the sides
Da-da-da-da-da-da
Da-da-da-da
Northern Birds
Da-da-da-da-da
If you really have to
Go up north then follow our advice
Fight away the women
Or you'll find yourself with Pubic lice
And herpes
Your much better staying in the South
Northern Birds
Are desperate ugly hippos dressed in Burberry
With a peanut for a brain
And an accent that makes you want to die
Now you've been warned
They're all physically deformed
Northern birds
Are all obese
And they're riddled with disease
Try to escape
Northern sex is worse than rape
Stay down south and mark my words
Stear well clear of northern birds
Northern birds
Northern birds

WhenIWasAFieldMyself · 18/06/2023 15:20

Adam Kay is a foul misogynist piece of shit and I feel sorry for his children. In the way I felt sorry for the women he humiliated and treated as comedy fodder in his books. His hatred of women and disgust at the female body shines through in every word.

coodawoodashooda · 18/06/2023 15:14

nauticant · 18/06/2023 13:06

If I heard right, he knew he was gay, he was out to certain people, and decided to marry a woman for some reason. The marriage failed.

It was one of those unusual Desert Island Discs programmes where your opinion of the guest went lower and lower the longer it went on.

I've never heard a Desert Island Discs like that.

StephanieSuperpowers · 18/06/2023 15:06

I'm astonished to see someone advance the argument that he was forced into surrogacy because some of his issues in the past would have made him an unsuitable candidate for adoption of fostering. Poor babies. A baby deprived of its mother at birth needs a parent who would be assessed as competent by social services. Not one who is using surrogacy as a way around the fact that they wouldn't.

And some speak like that's fine and natural? I despair.

DarkDayforMN · 18/06/2023 15:01

JanesLittleGirl · 18/06/2023 13:54

If you want to know what a sensitive, caring human being he is, read the lyrics to songs such as 'Your Baby', 'Menstrual Rag', or 'Nothing at All'.

Wow, he's a foul and disgusting person. I hope that when he gets old or sick, his paid female carers and his surrogacy babies treat him with the warmth and kindness he has earned.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2023 14:59

ArabeIIaScott · 18/06/2023 14:09

For the week or two preceeding
The days your other half is bleeding,
The moody bch is in a stress
Complaining about PMS

errr

right…

JellySaurus · 18/06/2023 14:54

Craftsandgardens · 18/06/2023 14:35

I’d love him to have explained the mystifying decision to put two women through childbirth, so he could have a baby

Er, money? The women weren't forced into giving birth. If the couple wanted children, then there aren't many options.

So you can have anything you want as long as you can pay for it?

Redlarge · 18/06/2023 14:49

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2023 12:35

I read This is Going to Hurt and found it a bit 'off'. I felt there was a lack of respect for the birthing women who were his patients. The surrogate thing stacks up

Me too i couldnt stand him in the book. Condescending and full of self importance.
But the TV series i found moving and great actors.

RedToothBrush · 18/06/2023 14:47

SequinsandStilettos · 18/06/2023 13:22

So how do gay men become fathers then OP?
There are only a few options that I can see. Fostering/adoption/sister of one using the other's sperm - so surrogacy but without money changing hands/female friend offering the same/shared custody with a lesbian couple using their sperm.
Perhaps none of those were possible.
I think it's fair to say you don't agree with commercial surrogacy for anyone, full-stop. Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian, Priyanka Chopra, Lucy Liu, Rebel Wilson, Sarah Jessica Parker, Nicole Kidman, Amber Heard and Tyra Banks could all have a similar thread started about them then?
I am not sure that his previous job and knowledge of the risks should stop him wanting to become a father, especially since he had experienced the loss of a child with his ex-wife. Unless you see it is a sense of entitlement from him and also from the nine women mentioned above.

Yep there's been threads on them.

I find this guy particularly repellent due to his books. I tried to watch the TV version but had to stop because I found the tone towards women so utterly awful. It's rare I will have such a strong negative reaction to anything on TV.

This is so not a surprise to me. And I didn't know he was gay.

Awful man. Hates women.

MissyB1 · 18/06/2023 14:43

Theredjellybean · 18/06/2023 13:00

I find him insufferable - and his assertions he left medicine because of grief is a cover story, he couldn't hack it, wasn't actually very good at the job and is a blatant misogenist.
I will not be listening and i usually love DiD

Agree. Dh is a Consultant he read Kay’s book and watched the TV series, his verdict was “Yeah he was never going to make it, didn’t have what it takes”. And Dh was also actually pissed off at Kay’s attitude towards his patients, when he comes across that sort of shit at work (which is very rare), he calls it out immediately.

Craftsandgardens · 18/06/2023 14:35

I’d love him to have explained the mystifying decision to put two women through childbirth, so he could have a baby

Er, money? The women weren't forced into giving birth. If the couple wanted children, then there aren't many options.

UncleHerbie · 18/06/2023 14:31

On DID, AK seemed self absorbed and unpleasant

JanesLittleGirl · 18/06/2023 14:25

ArabeIIaScott · 18/06/2023 14:09

That's the one. If I got a bit of Adam Kay on the sole of my shoe I'd have to throw the pair away.

MyDogStoodOnABee · 18/06/2023 14:13

LizzieSiddal · 18/06/2023 13:16

@WhatNoRaisins I can't get my head around someone that actually saw a women bleed to death in childbirth putting a woman through that risk unnecessarily.

I too was really shocked when he mentioned surrogacy as was convinced he must have adopted after the trauma he’d suffered as a Dr. I’d love him to have explained the mystifying decision to put two women through childbirth, so he could have a baby.

I imagine he views himself as a saviour, with desires to spread his genes to save womankind

ArabeIIaScott · 18/06/2023 14:13

https://unherd.com/2022/02/adam-kays-dangerous-misogyny/

'Women are reduced, consciously or not, to a series of stinking and repulsive orifices with imbeciles attached to them. The misogyny — the dehumanisation I am sure kills women — is relentless.'

Adam Kay's dangerous misogyny

Women are reduced to orifices with imbeciles attached

https://unherd.com/2022/02/adam-kays-dangerous-misogyny

sociallydistained · 18/06/2023 14:09

I really didn't like the way he spoke about women in this book. I hated it.

GailBlancheViola · 18/06/2023 14:08

I did offer to be a surrogate once (not for money), as I couldn't bear to see the pain someone was going through. Perhaps that has coloured my view. I am aware that altruistic surrogacy is rare

And where does the child figure in this supposed 'altruism'? Being used as a tool to assuage an adult's pain, there is nothing altruistic about that.

Children are not commodities.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2023 14:06

ZombieBeryl · 18/06/2023 13:47

Here's an interesting fact about the delightful Dr Adam Kay:

'The Mail on Sunday can reveal that, while he worked for the NHS, Kay wrote parody songs with his colleague Dr Suman Biswas that were performed at the Edinburgh Fringe.

The duo released an album called Fitness To Practice in 2004 including the song Your Baby, which features the lyrics: 'Your baby has Trisomy/ You shouldn't have kids at 53/ He'll have severe mental retardation/ How would you feel about a termination?'

The next verse says: 'A bit of a mong your baby/ Your baby has trisom, it's what he will die from/ Your baby's got trisomy.''

From www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10506277/amp/This-Going-Hurt-author-Adam-Kay-sang-vile-songs-Downs-syndrome-baby.html

Fuck me Adam

just because it rhymes it doesn’t make it ok

and as for ‘you shouldn’t have babies at 53’, well yes, that’s biological reality for you

shall we try another one? How about ‘two men can’t make a baby’