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ACLU disgrace

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WandaWomblesaurus · 18/06/2023 01:01

twitter.com/ACLU/status/1669705153316880385?s=20

This is beyond belief.

I'm starting to get really really fucked off at the centering of these creeps at the expense of their victims.

Trigger Warning - discusses rape.

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GrinitchSpinach · 20/06/2023 16:28

Thelnebriati · 18/06/2023 11:58

IMO this seems like a good time for US feminists to push to ensure their equality law clarifies the meaning of sex, protects sex based rights, and creates a hierarchy where sex based needs trump gender wants.

Well, we've been trying. In 2020, WDI USA drafted the Equality for All Act, which "would prohibit discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and nonconformity to sex-based stereotypes, while maintaining the existing sex-based protections for women and girls."

Women have been lobbying Congress to introduce it since then.

However, the Democratic Party is fully on board with the so-called "Equality Act," which would redefine sex discrimination provisions across federal law and policy as including sexual orientation and gender identity.

In other words, women would lose any female-specific protections because if sex = gender id, male people claiming womanhood would now be defined as being "discriminated against" when others say they do not belong in female spaces, opportunities, etc.

It's a woman-hating shambles of an act which has already passed the House but seemed to have died in the Senate. However, Joe Biden seems to be starting a new push to get it passed if he can, and the ACLU and other organizations advocating for it have literally hundreds of millions of dollars to spend while women scrape our pennies together...

Equality for All Act | WDI USA

The enactment of the so-called Equality Act (H.R. 5), which passed in the House of Representatives in 2021, but not yet in the Senate, would be a disaster for women’s […]

https://womensdeclarationusa.com/equality-for-all-act/

ArabeIIaScott · 20/06/2023 12:22

MathiasBroucek · 19/06/2023 18:58

The ACLU stopped being a force for good some time ago. But this is a whole other level of stupidity....

At this point, I don't think stupidity adequately explains it.

Datun · 20/06/2023 11:43

Jeez. That's difficult to believe.

The ACLU is complaining that a convicted rapist and murderer didn't have his woman hating fetish accommodated whilst in prison.

What does it take for these disgustingly captured organisations to fold ffs???

MathiasBroucek · 20/06/2023 11:27

RavingStone · 19/06/2023 19:23

This is terrifying. Is this a majority view in the US? This is Taliban level misogyny.

I strongly suspect it's not a majority view. Things are worse in the US but that also means that members of the silent majority are even more likely to self-censor (particularly given the weak employment rights that apply in the US and what that means for your healthcare)

Thelnebriati · 19/06/2023 19:50

They don't seem to engage with other Twits though. Which just makes them feel goady.

SquirrelSoShiny · 19/06/2023 19:39

I might even join twitter for the single purpose of telling the ACLU exactly how low they have fallen.

SquirrelSoShiny · 19/06/2023 19:34

I hope that has been archived for posterity and then I hope that organisation either eats humble pie or implodes and disappears. The comments are giving them the kicking they deserve. They're beyond parody now.

RavingStone · 19/06/2023 19:23

This is terrifying. Is this a majority view in the US? This is Taliban level misogyny.

MathiasBroucek · 19/06/2023 18:58

The ACLU stopped being a force for good some time ago. But this is a whole other level of stupidity....

SinnerBoy · 18/06/2023 12:10

BernardBlacksMolluscs · Today 11:12

Astonishing take ...total push back on twitter ...do you think it will make any difference?

I suspect that they'll issue a "Look how horrible everyone is, poor most marginalised etc, no wonder they're driven to awful things by a hateful society..." thing, which will go on for about 97 pages, without a word of truth.

Thelnebriati · 18/06/2023 11:58

IMO this seems like a good time for US feminists to push to ensure their equality law clarifies the meaning of sex, protects sex based rights, and creates a hierarchy where sex based needs trump gender wants.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 18/06/2023 11:12

Astonishing take

total push back on twitter

do you think it will make any difference?

Helleofabore · 18/06/2023 10:30

Remember that the ACLU won’t take on the women who are fighting the impacts of males being allowed into their sports. That has been left to the conservative ADF in most cases. So too detransitioners cannot seek justice via ACLU.

No ACLU prioritise rapists and murderers. To be clear, rapist, murder and then rape again after the murder committed if I remember correctly.

With this tweet they have declared they hate women.

NotBadConsidering · 18/06/2023 10:23

HorribleNecktie · 18/06/2023 08:54

I notice there’s now a helpful community note attached to the tweet to give context as to why Duane Owen was executed.

There should also be a community note pointing out that the ACLU is now run by a rampant trans activist and everything they stand for is controlled by them

QueenVerilas · 18/06/2023 09:19

These things initially make me think that’s a spoof account tweet. Then I remember how things are now and renember it could actually be real.

Assuming it is real, does the ACLU not think that man would want to transition to argue for their move to a women’s prison, where there will be women to terrify and rape?

Or that if a man repeatedly commits the most misogynistic and male of crimes, it’s because they are a man?

CompleteGinasaur · 18/06/2023 09:18

ArabeIIaScott · 18/06/2023 09:03

ACLU are disgraceful, but what does that make the system that has just put Dana Rivers in a woman's prison?

Oh God. I was quietly rejoicing that this particular piece of misogynistic excrement had finally gotten the life without parole that was the bare minimum he deserved. It stupidly hadn't occurred to me that he would be put in a women's prison. I can't see this ending up as anything other than another appalling tragedy waiting to happen for some other woman/women not too far down the line..

Caughtinlove · 18/06/2023 09:13

So this is where their priorities lie??? With rapists and murderers?

pumpkintits · 18/06/2023 09:12

This is honestly one of the most despicable, horrifying things I have read on Twitter. How, just HOW can anyone think that the feelings and "gender essence" are of any importance?

Where was the tweet in remembrance of those poor women? The parents of that 14 year old they never got to see graduate, go to college, get married, have children? Where were the condolences to the 2 children who had to grow up without their mum, who's gruesome rape and murder they would undoubtedly have read about on the Internet?

It wouldn't surprise me if this tweet was from one random sicko (there seems to be an abundance of them on Twitter) but this is a large, previously well respected organisation tweeting this. I am honestly so bloody mad about the absolute disdain and disgust they are showing for women.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 18/06/2023 09:09

Cry me a river. Basic human dignity would be not being brutally murdered and raped. That piece of shit deserved nothing. I'm against the death penalty, but I am not sorry that man is dead. I am sorry that the executioners are made into state sanctioned murderers themselves - but that man. Nope.

ArabeIIaScott · 18/06/2023 09:03

ACLU are disgraceful, but what does that make the system that has just put Dana Rivers in a woman's prison?

Redshoeblueshoe · 18/06/2023 08:57

I love the community notes

HorribleNecktie · 18/06/2023 08:54

I notice there’s now a helpful community note attached to the tweet to give context as to why Duane Owen was executed.

TheDogthatDug · 18/06/2023 08:37

Bloody hell. After that tweet, the ACLU must be finished

Helleofabore · 18/06/2023 04:51

It truly sets a low bar for tone deaf. I cannot imagine how the victim’s families felt seeing this.

Of all the issues causing wrongful suffering of people in prison, like rape and violence, this case is the one they have chosen at this time to highlight.

NotBadConsidering · 18/06/2023 03:25

I genuinely think that’s the worst tweet I have ever seen, and that’s saying something given the competition. Just mind blowing in its awfulness.