Emma D'arcy: "I thought ^I^ was the one who was critical of gender."

Absolutely this, my generation changed how women were treated, we didn't change ourselves.

Yes. You can be the most feminine woman in the world and still be a good person, kick ass at your chosen job, be respectful of other kinds of women, have important and valuable skills etc. you can also say no to femininity but neither makes you a better or worse woman. But denying you’re a woman at all because you don’t want to perform a stereotype is so backwards it makes my head hurt.

I also find it very misogynistic, as if to say those actresses who present as feminine can be treated like crap but as I’m not a woman you can’t do that to me. These women would be the first to hate women who uphold patriarchy but they are essentially doing the same thing. The way to end misogyny is not by saying you aren’t a woman, it’s by stopping people treating all woman like crap.

Genuinely puzzled . Does anyone know what she is driving at ?

Just reading the Glenda Jackson obituaries. Many friends and colleagues mention her fierce intelligence and honesty. Only saying like....

It must be exhausting being her.

YY LonginesPrime. Having a special gender identity basically is "main character syndrome" writ large.

Its just the new version of "not like other girls". Rather than standing up for your own sex and pointing out that the stupid stereotypes were obviously false, girls would instead make out that they were special and the exception to the rule.

At one point most girls in my year group (including me) were claiming to be "not like other girls" because we liked indie music and played guitar. But we were 14 so we had an excuse to be self-centred, we grew out of by sixth form.

But in this society now they do have power and privileged status by claiming enby. All the middle aged hags are irrelevant to this.

I can’t believe how this deeply uncool and embarrassing identity stuff has these people thinking they have Grace Jones or Annie Lennox or Prince style swag. Exuding primary levels understanding about biology and a chilling lack of empathy rather than power and subversiveness

Yes, it's all very "not like other girls".

I can imagine people reassuring them that most people feel restricted by oppressive gender stereotypes, and them replying "no no - this is different. You couldn't possibly understand." Like we're all NPCs and they're the only ones with real feelings.

100% and even as a child I never for a second thought I was the problem. It was society trying to constrain me and I didn't give two shits what it thought I should do. How on earth have we got this point?! One of my dear friends, a smart, gender non-conforming bisexual woman, has started using 'they' pronouns and I absolutely fucking despair.

You can be as critical or not of gender as you like, you're still a woman, however pedestrian you find it.

Agree, you just are a woman, and the gender stereotype of femininity is not inherently linked to that and you're free to reject it. It's tragic that anyone has got to their 30s without realising that, at least in the UK, they're surrounded by women who wear trousers, have short hair, fix cars, put up shelves, catch spiders, or work as physicists or whatever stereotypically masculine things they like, or maybe have a variety of traits that are seen as masculine, feminine and neither, and that that is in fact most normal women.

How is anyone managing to convince themselves that they're surrounded by boring normies who all adhere to a binary choice of gender stereotypes? It's mad! I mean apart from anything else there are a whole load of non-binary, neither masculine nor feminine activities that most people do all the time, reading, gardening, eating, listening to music etc. Life is generally very non-binary.

Oh it’s just all so egotistical isn’t it! What’s the difference between non-binary and not conforming to sex-based stereotypes? How many people do you know who entirely conform to all sex-based stereotypes? So this is a label which says “I haven’t bothered to consider anybody else, ever” Understandable at 16, completely immature at 30

That’s exactly how I feel.

70s child. Only wanted to hang out with boys, play with “boy toys”, and god forbid did I ever wear a dress. Very George from Famous Five. Idolised Nancy in the Arthur Ransome books.

But despite all that, quelle surprise I’m very happy in my body as an adult human female.

Absolutely this ^

It's fascinating! What is she saying? She prefers jackets and button up tops to long dresses? So do I, and at her age I would never have worn anything that didn't cover me up, I was far too self conscious.

I do hope she's not going to start the surgery and hormones spiral, she doesn't look very happy.

I found Game of thrones to be very sexist and regressive, it was teenage boy fantasy attitudes to women.

The whole acting industry is trapped in the past.

Non-binary is idiotic and very regressive - the opposite of what they think they’re being!

Newsflash, enbies- this is the 21st century. You don’t have to measure yourself by gender stereotypes. We ditched all that in the 1970s, then some self-absorbed tw*ts brought it back eye roll 🙄

Emma - most people don’t give a shiny shit about daft stereotypes! We don’t sit there musing over which silly stereotypes we conform to or don’t conform to. We understand that, in the U.K., at least, we can be women and wear what we like, do what we like, and be what we like. Nobody needs a special label to do that, unless they’re insecure/ignorant.

As for thinking you have to ‘pretend to be a woman’, what you really mean is pretend to be feminine. You don’t. There are feminine women, masculine women - it doesn’t matter and it doesn’t change their sex. Look back at people like Annie Lennox, Grace Jones, etc. By thinking women have to be feminine and present in a certain way, you’re actually perpetuating regressive stereotypes.

Brilliant quote - thanks!

I’d be interested to know if there’s a non-binary person without a terrible haircut. There’s something very conformist about it.

What is it about idiot posh actresses called Emma?

Trying again without the archive link this time. The first link is archived at archive dot is.

This is the article (I couldn't read the screenshots in the OP).

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/06/15/emma-darcy-slams-attacks-trans-rights/

There's another article about Emma on that page which I clicked on about 'hiding their identity'.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/11/emma-darcy-non-binary-golden-globes/

(this is also archived on web.archive.org, but I can't seem to post a usable link).

Speaking to E! News, the 30-year-old said: “When I was starting out, I really felt that I had to present as a woman in order to find success in this industry.

“It wasn’t sustainable, and I stopped pretending. And weirdly at that point, I got nominated for Best Actress for the Golden Globes, which is like beautifully ironic.”

It didn't seem to dawn on her that she didn't have to 'pretend' to be a woman because she actually is a woman and other people recognise that no matter what she likes to wear or how she styles her hair or how she behaves. If she actually bothered to think about this, she'd understand what being critical of gender actually means.

This is the article (I couldn't read the screenshots in the OP).

https://archive.is/hSNdl

There's another article about Emma on that page which I clicked on about 'hiding their identity'.

https://www.thepinknews.com/2023/01/11/emma-darcy-non-binary-golden-globes/

(this is also archived on web.archive.org, but I can't seem to post a usable link).

Speaking to E! News, the 30-year-old said: “When I was starting out, I really felt that I had to present as a woman in order to find success in this industry.

“It wasn’t sustainable, and I stopped pretending. And weirdly at that point, I got nominated for Best Actress for the Golden Globes, which is like beautifully ironic.”

It didn't seem to dawn on her that she didn't have to 'pretend' to be a woman because she actually is a woman and other people recognise that no matter what she likes to wear or how she styles her hair or how she behaves. If she actually bothered to think about this, she'd understand what being critical of gender actually means.

Is this some kind of parallel universe where Diana Keaton, Jodie Foster, Katherine Hepburn, Marlene Detreich, Sigourney Weaver et al don’t exist?

Yes I find this stuff so mindbogglingly nonsensical. How can people like this not spend the 2 minutes thinking it through that it would take to realise that if you reject your sex on the basis of your "gender identity", you're not challenging stereotyped gender roles at all? You're agreeing with them!

The daft thing is that to think you are "gender non-conforming", you must, actually, fundamentally acknowledge your sex. Otherwise how would you know what gender stereotype you're supposedly deviating from that means you have to claim to be not the sex you are?

A woman can only be GNC if she knows she's a woman, and is challenging the stereotypes associated with that. Once she decides that being GNC means she's not a woman, she's no longer GNC is she? It's circular.