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Excellent interview with Julie Bindell & Douglas Murray about Pride

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Appalonia · 11/06/2023 23:37

So great to see 2 highly intelligent pp, from opposite sides of the political spectrum have such a respectful, thoughtful and highly entertaining discussion. Very enjoyable watch!

What is the point of Pride? Douglas Murray & Julie Bindel – The View from 22 | Spectator TV

Lukas Degutis is joined by Douglas Murray and Julie Bindel to discuss Pride Month and how it has changed over the years. For better? Or for worse?// SUBSCRIB...

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AutisticLegoLover · 16/06/2023 18:53

I'd never heard of DM until this thread. Well, DM as in DangerMouse, obviously, but not the scathingly witty man in the video.

AgathaSpencerGregson · 16/06/2023 17:25

I disagree with DM on many things and I do think it’s a shame that he skates over the surface of many issues rather than analysing them properly. He is a clever guy and his deeper thoughts would be worth hearing. But these are issues which require no deep thought to be right about, I guess, and I do enjoy his snitty barbed repartee very much.

HareRaising · 16/06/2023 17:21

EdithStourton · 16/06/2023 17:03

Ditto.
I'm sure Douglas Murray would be amazed to know that he has a fan club of feminists...

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Despite being on the feminism boards I would not consider myself a feminist as such - I am rather in tune with KJK on that.

EdithStourton · 16/06/2023 17:03

AutisticLegoLover · 14/06/2023 22:31

I think I'm in love with them both after watching that. Thank you for sharing!

Ditto.
I'm sure Douglas Murray would be amazed to know that he has a fan club of feminists...

Datun · 16/06/2023 14:03

That was very interesting.

The comment that really nailed it for me was that straight white men realising that the only advantage they didn't have, was victimhood.

So they took it.

And, in their terribly disadvantaged state, force everyone else to uphold it.

It really is a horrible testament to the inhumanity of some men that, seeing society finally recognising that some people are indeed disadvantaged, and therefore might need some extra help, chose to appropriate it for themselves.

AutisticLegoLover · 14/06/2023 22:31

I think I'm in love with them both after watching that. Thank you for sharing!

MavisMcMinty · 14/06/2023 21:31

Brilliant, thanks for sharing this wonderful interview!

Backstreets · 14/06/2023 10:13

Very funny that they started out saying "gays and lesbians have little in common..." like it was setting up a sort of debate and they then proceeded to laugh at each other's jokes and agree for a whole conversation :)

I think generation really is key here, not just the view of sex and gender and the first hand experienced evolution of Pride, but also the knowledge you can absolutely like and respect people you disagree with on some points.

minsmum · 13/06/2023 20:58

Thank you that was a great interview to watch

RogersOrganismicProcess · 13/06/2023 20:55

I loved that discussion, both DM and JB had an infections twinkle about them. They were lovely to watch as well as listen too.

ohfook · 13/06/2023 20:52

One thing I love about JB is her willingness to engage in dialogue with people who hold opinions that differ from hers. She does the exact opposite of placing herself in an echo chamber and is willing to have her own thoughts scrutinised. I think it's a real mark of her character.

I loved reading her interview with buck angel. It really read as two people who both liked and respected each other despite having completely opposing viewpoints.

timetorefresh · 13/06/2023 20:46

If only these conversations were happening on the BBC or similar

HareRaising · 13/06/2023 20:12

Always have a lot of time for DM - he is a very intelligent commentator and usually quite entertaining with it.

Lilifer · 13/06/2023 19:13

Appalonia · 11/06/2023 23:37

So great to see 2 highly intelligent pp, from opposite sides of the political spectrum have such a respectful, thoughtful and highly entertaining discussion. Very enjoyable watch!

Yes this was a fantastic interview!

determinedtomakethiswork · 13/06/2023 18:34

Thanks for this.

BethDuttonsTwin · 13/06/2023 18:21

Love DM - one of the sharpest commentators out there.

Fenlandia · 13/06/2023 18:17

TheBiologyStupid · 12/06/2023 23:01

Douglas Murray was new to me - but he came across as a good guy and clearly recognised the blatant misogyny of "the alphabet people". I echo the comments above about the posh young host, although to be fair to him his interventions were few and far between and reasonably sensible.

Yes he was perfectly fine, I should have said that as well as being snarky about his youthful appearance!

Sagittariusrising · 13/06/2023 09:39

Excellent interview - thanks for sharing.

2Rebecca · 13/06/2023 00:14

I thought it was excellent

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 23:17

I can't help liking Douglas Murray, even though we'd disagree on so much. His clarity of thought and expression is so refreshing.

Obviously Julie Bindel is a goddess.

OnAPostItNote · 12/06/2023 23:13

Thanks for sharing this. It’s excellent

TheBiologyStupid · 12/06/2023 23:01

Douglas Murray was new to me - but he came across as a good guy and clearly recognised the blatant misogyny of "the alphabet people". I echo the comments above about the posh young host, although to be fair to him his interventions were few and far between and reasonably sensible.

LoobiJee · 12/06/2023 21:46

Thanks for posting. I enjoyed watching that. Not sure how I ended up posting on an old thread instead of this one though.

FrancescaContini · 12/06/2023 19:22

Very watchable, thank you. I loved Julie’s “unbreakable Wi-Fi code” comment about the string of letters.

EdithStourton · 12/06/2023 18:22

Fenlandia · 12/06/2023 16:24

It won't convince anyone new, but my god I enjoyed these two smart people riffing off the ridiculousness of modern queer culture. Oh, and how posh and young is their host?!

About 14, I thought....

But yes, fab interview.