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Will you be watching the debate tomorrow?

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ACatCalledPushka · 11/06/2023 20:09

Am looking forward to tomorrow’s debate on the Equality Act. Anyone else planning to watch it?

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FriendofJoanne · 12/06/2023 17:00

Are we going over to the other thread?

Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 16:59

MishyJDI · 12/06/2023 16:56

So how are you going to know? Genital inspections or ID on entry? This really is going to be hard for women who look slightly masculine - and I dare say there are more than there are transwomen, getting challenged in the bathroom. Oh the web that has been spun.

Neither! I know who is a man and who isn't. You know as well as the rest of us the majority of the time you can tell one sex from the other. Ive never had any problem in real life telling a man from a woman, even when the men are effeminate and the women more masculine. If you can't tell then I suggest you book yourself an opticians appointment and and hearing test whilst your at it.

Ramblingnamechanger · 12/06/2023 16:58

Oh Mishy, you are so predictable . we all know who is who and if men stopped trying to gain access to our facilities, the problem would vanish. No need to worry about us women, we know and we can sort ourselves out thank you.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 12/06/2023 16:58

With the clever use of eyes, @MishyJDI

We can easily tell the difference between a man, a woman, and a man in a dress.

MishyJDI · 12/06/2023 16:56

Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 14:51

Especially when those surgeries haven't included the bottom half!! As we all know most men don't have that done, and so a pair of knockers does not give you the right to go to the loo in the women's toilets unless you are actually a woman.

So how are you going to know? Genital inspections or ID on entry? This really is going to be hard for women who look slightly masculine - and I dare say there are more than there are transwomen, getting challenged in the bathroom. Oh the web that has been spun.

ACatCalledPushka · 12/06/2023 16:54

Yes - that's Rosie

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Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 16:54

Whilst we wait I've been checking book sales.......

over 400 books about a Mumsnet thread!!!!!!!!

does a happy dance!

Will you be watching the debate tomorrow?
Ramblingnamechanger · 12/06/2023 16:54

Who is that standing near the camera, Rosie Duffield?

chilling19 · 12/06/2023 16:53

Hi all, as the other thread was set up first, please come over to join us if you want to x

Debate relating to the definition of “sex” in the Equality Act 2010 will be in Westminster Hall on 12 June 2023 4:30pm www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4800027-debate-relating-to-the-definition-of-sex-in-the-equality-act-2010-will-be-in-westminster-hall-on-12-june-2023-430pm

FriendofJoanne · 12/06/2023 16:51

Yes pinned threads and also would love to be able to comment on posts via emojis - the poster snaffling the biccies gets a laughing emoji from me - mmm tasty 😆

Giggorata · 12/06/2023 16:51

Is there any way of finding out who is attending this?
Apart from Hansard afterwards, I mean.
I haven't seen my MP het and if he doesn't attend, I will give him a piece of my mind. I’ve been writing to him for long enough…
Also which thread is the correct one? Confused..

chilling19 · 12/06/2023 16:48

Iwanttoretire - I think it is difficult to see existing threads sometimes - not sure why this is. I use the app and don't always see all the current threads, so I think the person that set up this one probably had the same experience. I wish Mumsnet would allow pinned threads - that could help.

Ramblingnamechanger · 12/06/2023 16:48

Why can’t they have have electronic voting which would mean less time walking around and a bit more concentration on the matter in hand?

Monkmeister · 12/06/2023 16:47

Adults proper adulting. At last!

ickky · 12/06/2023 16:47

This is an explanation, basically so they can vote.

The sitting of a general committee may at any time be suspended informally by the Chair, in which case they will announce to the committee that the sitting is suspended and that they will resume the Chair at a certain hour.1 This usually occurs when an afternoon sitting of a committee has continued for more than about two-and-a-half hours, in order to provide a break. It should be noted, however, that when a division is called in the House or in a Committee of the whole House, the Chair must suspend the proceedings for such time as will, in the Chair's opinion, enable Members to vote in the division and return to the committee.2 This is generally held to be 15 minutes for a single division. In accordance with Standing Order No 124 as applied to general committees by Standing Order No 89, if at any time during the sitting a quorum is not present the Chair must suspend the proceedings until a quorum is present, or adjourn the committee until some future day.

Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 16:47

whilst we wait i've got a new laptop that isn't nearly 15 years old and its all zoomy and quick and is letting me actually have the little window within a window thingy on my screen.

ITS ACE! I'm loving the 21st century! finally!

IwantToRetire · 12/06/2023 16:45

Not sure why this thread was set up as already posted yesterday there was an existing thread with background material.

Would have been more sisterly to have not continued this thread then!

But too late now.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 12/06/2023 16:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/06/2023 15:05

How can Crispin Blunt say "it would be terrible for people to have to use facilities they don't feel comfortable in" and not be able to think that through? What does that mean for WOMEN?

Because Crispin Blunt is a misogynistic arsehole.

It's basically 'bro's before ho's' with extra steps.

Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 16:45

ArabeIIaScott · 12/06/2023 16:44

Where are the biscuits?

mmms crunch mmm crunch

dont know

dudsville · 12/06/2023 16:45

Thanks for the thread and twitter link as i don't have twitter.

What does the ley of twamley mean please?

whereaw · 12/06/2023 16:45

How annoying!

ArabeIIaScott · 12/06/2023 16:44

WarriorN · 12/06/2023 16:42

Are we sticking to this thread? It's helpful to have one

Where are the biscuits?

Boiledbeetle · 12/06/2023 16:44

this is going to be a long long evening if they keep stopping very 30 sentences.

FriendofJoanne · 12/06/2023 16:44

Hello lovely terfs! Yes a division means they've gone off to vote on something. Bit annoying as less than 10 mins into this debate.

DialSquare · 12/06/2023 16:44

What does a division in the house mean?

I can see Rosie Duffield is there.