Prejudiced and hysterical (Biden)

Sounds similar to some responses from leaders we’ve had here

trans peeps

The infantilisation around this topic is interesting. Is it because so many of them are children?

Yes and have to say he is right. This is a private issue between the patient/parents and their medical staff who know this stuff rather than speculate and gesticulate and shout its mutilation.

Thank god for Biden. Some common sense around all the anti LGBT stuff.

Stops the onlooker ghouls posting pics and expressing their bigotry when time and time again the vast vast majority of trans peeps express satisfaction at their treatment.

As has been said many times: 'If God had meant the USA to have a President, He would have given them a candidate.'

“The surgeons involved can't see the wood for the trees”

where ‘trees’=$$$$

And the Dems did not act to enshrine the right to abortion, at the points when they were in a position to do so.

They pretend that no one ever thought Roe v Wade would be reversed, but that is absolute bollocks because RvW was always somewhat tenuous because of its reliance on the right to privacy and because it was arguably unconstitutional in how it constrained State law-making. There were always lawyers who warned it was vulnerable.

The truth is that the Dems benefitted - and continue to benefit - from the anti-abortion activism of Republicans, and so it was not in their interests to resolve the matter. They put political expediency before protecting women.

no fan of Johnson, but to claim he was akin to trump is just mad I’m afraid.
‘furthermore, he is not on the menu anymore. The US in 24 is looking at the same terrible choices as in 20. That’s not a healthy place.

Prejudiced and hysterical describes Biden perfectly. It's a good job there aren't any important issues like women and girls being denied access to vital abortion care, the fentanyl epidemic and places like Skid Row because if there were he wouldn't have time to focus on the privileged luxury beliefs of his lobbyists.

“(2) GENDER IDENTITY.—The term ‘gender identity’ means the gender-related identity, appearance, mannerisms, or other gender-related characteristics of an individual, regardless of the individual’s designated sex at birth.
“(3) INCLUDING.—The term ‘including’ means including, but not limited to, consistent with the term's standard meaning in Federal law.
“(4) SEX.—The term ‘sex’ includes—
“(A) a sex stereotype;
“(B) pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition;
“(C) sexual orientation or gender identity; and
“(D) sex characteristics, including intersex traits.

(My bold).

How the fuck is that a workable definition?

Ahem - Boris Johnson 😉

At the moment, employers and service providers cannot discriminate on the grounds of race, colour, religion, sex, or national origin. However, the legal environment around this is very different from the UK, because of the strong protections for the autonomy of States, and because of the First Amendment, which is much broader than what we think of as free speech.

Equality protections are pretty weak. For example, the outrageous gerrymandering of Congressional districts - by both sides but at the moment particularly by Republicans, trying to concentrate all black voters into a few districts - carries on, despite Supreme Court judgements that it is unconstitutional.

I mean, I don't know why I'm at all surprised. This is a country where successive Democratic Presidents failed to ensure that the right to abortion was enshrined in law, relying on the very shaky (and known to be shaky) precedent from case law.

They said they'd do it, they didn't because women are second class citizens in the USA.

So are children. Why I'm surprised by the misogyny when they are apparently willing to accept child deaths from school shootings at a rate that don't occur anywhere else in the world as some kind of acceptable thing.

It makes no sense though, you're discriminating against women based on sex if you allow anyone who's male to self ID into their private spaces, because it will mean many women will have to self-exclude from public life. Which was the whole point of female only toilets etc in the first place.

Not for the first time, I reflect on how glad I am that I don’t live in the US. They really are fucked. Choose between a dotard and a sociopath, people!

'Equality Act

This bill prohibits discrimination based on sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity in areas including public accommodations and facilities, education, federal funding, employment, housing, credit, and the jury system. Specifically, the bill defines and includes sex, sexual orientation, and gender identity among the prohibited categories of discrimination or segregation.

The bill expands the definition of public accommodations to include places or establishments that provide (1) exhibitions, recreation, exercise, amusement, gatherings, or displays; (2) goods, services, or programs; and (3) transportation services.

The bill allows the Department of Justice to intervene in equal protection actions in federal court on account of sexual orientation or gender identity.

The bill prohibits an individual from being denied access to a shared facility, including a restroom, a locker room, and a dressing room, that is in accordance with the individual's gender identity.'

I think I can see a problem, here. (my bold)

Cross-post!

Doh, sorry! It's here - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5/text

I presume this is it:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5

'He said what is happening in some states is an 'unjustified and ugly' appeal to fear and called on lawmakers to pass legislation, which has been stalled in Congress, that would protect the civil rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer individuals.
'Congress must pass, must pass the Equality Act and send it to my desk,' Biden said of a legislative measure he had named a top priority during his 2020 campaign.'

https://apnews.com/article/ohio-donald-trump-ap-top-news-laws-joe-biden-ab96c4d9b3a84ef9b10598781ff38e93

Thanks, yes, I meant the US one referenced in the article!

So what are protected classes in US law then?

Presumably Biden is suggesting that being Gay is not one of them so that they can be fired at will without remedy?

It varies a lot by State. Some States have anti-discrimination employment laws not dissimilar to the UK's. Others allow you to fire at will, other than where it would contravene Federal law.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents

All UK modern statues are on legislation.gov.uk, I think.

He is a huge disappointment, as is Obama and all the other supposed 'leaders' cheering on this stuff.

They need to read what some of the surgeons involved in 'gender affirmative' surgeries and drugs are saying. Even Bowers is admitting that puberty blockers at Tanner stage 2 destroys the chance of normal sexual function. They're talking about modifying the protocols - but what about just bloody deciding to stop it all or at the very least do proper research and follow up. The surgeons involved can't see the wood for the trees - given the risks and problems being exposed the whole idea of doing this to children at all should be vigorously questioned - as it would be for any other medical procedure with dubious benefit and known risks - and the Democrats are more interested in their political agenda than children's health and wellbeing.

Be interested to read that Equality Act. Does anyone know where one can find it?