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Another TRA making violent threats

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DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 09:15

I wonder if this person will be subjected to the same treatment as Caroline Farrow?

Let's wait and see!

Another TRA making violent threats
Another TRA making violent threats
Another TRA making violent threats
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JanesLittleGirl · 08/06/2023 12:28

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:52

Suffolk
Surrey
Sussex

FFS!

The English would like more imaginative names for our counties but Clackmannanshire was already taken.

ArabeIIaScott · 08/06/2023 12:26

SidewaysOtter · 08/06/2023 12:25

According to the response from Twitter reports, Laylalefey's account has been suspended. Good.

I'll be happy when I hear he's in prison, tbh.

SidewaysOtter · 08/06/2023 12:25

According to the response from Twitter reports, Laylalefey's account has been suspended. Good.

Felix125 · 08/06/2023 12:24

SinnerBoy

OK - perhaps the word victim should have been placed in inverted commas for the CF case - sorry if this has caused you major confusion.

Do you now want to bring up Boiledbeetle mixing up the two counties as another major confusing issue for you?

Do you want me to add a string of 'disclaimers' to the end of each of my posts just to cover my back?

Note that the word disclaimers is in inverted commas too

Confusedmumannoyedson · 08/06/2023 12:12

@bluemoonswoon THIS

"A man publically threatens to violently disembowel women and you are here scolding us for talking about it? JFC. I am genuinely stunned."

Wow.

Confusedmumannoyedson · 08/06/2023 12:09

Yet this type of story gets sent off to the naughty corner and is not concerned of interest by many. Some men and woman are blind and deaf to this and just turn away whenever another (there appears to be more and more and more) story comes up.

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2023 11:55

Not aiming this at Plum, I just wanted to see if others had the same idea:

The word 'victim' was used in the context of the sentence. ie if they continue with the threats......

In CF's case, victim was written without inverted commas. In the case of the hammer bloke, the word victim was used, in the context of the women threatened by hammer bloke.

It doesn't seem like a coincidence.

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:52

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 11:49

I always get them mixed up, sometimes I'll throw in Suffolk too 😃

Suffolk
Surrey
Sussex

FFS!

PriOn1 · 08/06/2023 11:49

Zodfa · 08/06/2023 11:44

Funny, I don't remember anyone on Mumsnet issuing violent threats, or anyone in the GC movement being charged in court with menacing people with a hammer in supermarkets.

Odd, isn’t it?

I wonder at what point “tarring everyone with the same brush” melds into “pointing out an obvious trend”…

…Ponders…

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 11:49

I always get them mixed up, sometimes I'll throw in Suffolk too 😃

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:48

My bad, Caroline is Surrey. This guy is Sussex!

All these S places with double letters are the same to me!

goes off to look at a map.

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:46

BlackeyedSusan · 08/06/2023 11:35

Indeed.

Shan't hold my breath!

I'm suddenly wondering if I'm right. Is Caroline Sussex or Surrey?

Zodfa · 08/06/2023 11:44

Funny, I don't remember anyone on Mumsnet issuing violent threats, or anyone in the GC movement being charged in court with menacing people with a hammer in supermarkets.

PriOn1 · 08/06/2023 11:44

bluemoonswoon · 08/06/2023 09:57

...and i get that the real issue is that intersection between trans women who are also violent. BUT when you blur that very, very serious problem with posts from mumsnet users being overly 'offended' by drag, or pride, or pronouns etc etc (and there are many posts on here that can be really mean) really damages your argument and distracts from the real problem.
You come across as bullies rather than wanting to protect women's rights.

Okay, well if we come across as bullies and aren’t making our points about women’s rights heard, then you might as well leave us to it so we can drive everyone away.

You must be glad that you can be certain that we won’t be changing anyone’s mind.

And of course if you want to promote women’s rights, then you should probably go to another site which isn’t filled with bigots and bullies, as you’re unlikely to change the minds of such a group.

Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake, remember? Leave us to it. We’ll take it from here.

ArabeIIaScott · 08/06/2023 11:40

bluemoonswoon · 08/06/2023 09:29

There are horrible people in every section of society. There are awful trans women, there are awful people on mumsnet, there are awful gender critical people.
Stop using the extremes of human behaviour as an excuse to bully trans people as a group (I see it here all the time).
Stick to core of your beliefs and focus on what matters (women only spaces / women only sports / legally what makes a woman).
Please can everyone here STOP with the stuff that you just personally find offensive as you're losing the argument when people body shame Sam Smith, or have a problem with drag (no, it is NOT the same as blackface, stop pretending it is), having a problem with pride. The amount of positives that come from pride far, far outweigh the negatives (especially for young people trying to find acceptance).
Being 'offended' by something - just because it makes you uncomfortable (such as someone's lifestyle or how they look) isn't important.
Protecting women's female only spaces is important.
Focus mumsnet, focus! You're losing the room.
(And for those so say things like 'the tide is turning' --- no it's not, only for the far right and daily mail readers. It's not exactly winning the argument is it).

What the fuck? This is your actual response to those messages?

A man publically threatens to violently disembowel women and you are here scolding us for talking about it? JFC. I am genuinely stunned.

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:35

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 11:28

Oh @Boiledbeetle I hadn't noticed that. How interesting 🍿

Isn't it!

Another TRA making violent threats
BlackeyedSusan · 08/06/2023 11:35

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 11:28

Oh @Boiledbeetle I hadn't noticed that. How interesting 🍿

Indeed.

Shan't hold my breath!

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 11:28

Oh @Boiledbeetle I hadn't noticed that. How interesting 🍿

Boiledbeetle · 08/06/2023 11:25

So the same police force that deals with Caroline will also deal with this guy?

Will be interesting to see how it pans out

Felix125 · 08/06/2023 10:58

My advice would be:

Engage with who you want to engage with. Don't let others dictate who you can or can't engage with. Its a chat forum and its your choice what you post and who you post to.

Helleofabore · 08/06/2023 10:56

IWilloBeACervix · 08/06/2023 10:03

But it’s the cultural changes, like forcing people to change their language and display pronouns as a sign of adherence, that is ending up with situations where a judge thinks it’s sensible to allow a violent offender back on the streets simply because of a self-declared trans status.

And this is hugely important.

I have found a few posters lately who have used this ‘you only talk about extreme trans cases or LGBT organisations when you discuss safeguarding.’ Every time this silencing tactic, and it is a silencing tactic, is used it missed the point. A group that is untouchable in discussion is being forced. No safeguarding process should allow that at all. And yet, here we are.

Would we be discussing any old male who was not jailed because the judge couldn’t decide which prison to send them, and who was out there threatening women online? Fucking oath we would. Why should this male perpetrator be treated any differently?

No untouchable group! It is a very dangerous tactic.

knittingaddict · 08/06/2023 10:50

DerekFaker · 08/06/2023 10:10

CAN WE NOT DO THIS WITH PC PLUM AGAIN? THANK YOU XXX

Said so much better than my attempt. 😀

knittingaddict · 08/06/2023 10:48

My advice would be to NOT engage with felix125. It will get you nothing but acute frustration.

Rightsraptor · 08/06/2023 10:42

Well, he's not scary at all.

IcakethereforeIam · 08/06/2023 10:39

So this guy, making violent threats, actually has convictions for violent acts? He's not just talking the talk.

That Judge was a coward. It's his job, he should have jailed this man. It, to him, was a difficult choice and he bottled it.

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