Anti-women Response from Caroline Lucas re: equality act

Yes, that sounds about right, borntobequiet.

Caroline Lucas is intelligent, capable and committed, but no more so than many other female MPs, who have had the additional difficulty of making progress in much bigger parties with far more complexity and nuance of policy. She has stood out in the GP because the general standard of people there is lower. No one seriously interested in wholesale change commits themselves to a single issue party. It’s also relatively easy to appear sensible and well intentioned over green issues, which are recognised as being important by many on both the left and the right, hence her generally making a good showing in Parliament.
However, what she clearly demonstrates is that intelligent and well intentioned people can be as deluded and blinkered as anyone on issues that require a suspension of common sense and reality.

She'd tie herself up in knots.

The bottom line really is that she is intentionally lying, knows she is, and expects everyone else to lie with her. You know the facts but you all either agree to pretend otherwise according to political doctrine of the moment, to benefit those you've decided are the current flavour of the month, or you are punished. By scolding, ostracism, harassment, job loss, police involvement, criminal proceedings.

I can't understand why the entire country isn't looking at this in horror and refusing to vote for any party that could think this was rational, because if they'll do this for one belief/group of current pets, they can do it for anything at all. You would have to be mad to think this is a mindset that should be trusted with power.

I would like to ask Caroline Lucas if she is male or female. And if she responded "female" how she knows.

I've been asking my CBT councillor that for a year.

Yes, I spend my money wisely, lol.

Caroline Lucas is really disappointing.

She's been such a force for good in Parliament on many issues and I do genuinely believe that she's one of the few politicians who are there trying to make the country and the world a better place, rather than because they are a power hungry ego maniac.

I don't get WHY people like her have taken this position.

Yes, yes, be kind, whatever. I get why you could agree that TWAW as a starting point because you think it's just about being nice to a vulnerable minority and haven't really thought about the potential issues arising out of that.

But these left wing politicians have had it pointed out to them thousands of times now. They know about Karen White and Isla Bryson and Laurel Hubbard and Emily Bridges.

I'm absolutely certain that Caroline Lucas knows about Sarah Summers and the absence of single sex rape crisis support services in Brighton.

Why are they continuing to uncritically support this ideology?

She’s not standing at the next election.

Her reply stretched to a couple of pages, yes?

Page One Fuck...
Page Two ...Off!

Haha, @ArabeIIaScott . Tbh, I was surprised to receive a response at all. My emails normally get ignored🙄

We're really gonna see how our esteemed betters and leaders line up on this.

I'm so gonna get the popcorn in to watch so-called intelligent MPs happy to flush women's rights. And happy to say it publically.

There are no rights that trans lack compared to any other citizens.

There is no trans genocide, there will be no trans genocide. Just loose words from those intent in obfuscating with deliberately emotive language.

The suicide ideation concept is pure fantasy.

What there is, is mission creep where biological definitions of sex, from which all social and civic policy is formed, has been at risk and diluted by the confusion of sex between biological sex and gender.

Just look at VAWG...it is 99% or even 99.9% male-perpetetated historically. Suddenly in less than a decade, that figure is 95%. We're really to believe that 5-50x increase in women being violent against other women?

No, the confusion is because suddenly a whole tranche of violent men are now women under the law.

Look at women's health, poverty. We need the most accurate figures to pinpoint breast and cervical cancer risks, women's risks in childbirth, sex differentiation in terms of outcomes re poverty, very different men to women.

Health stats skewed by men becoming women as recognised when gender and sex are interchangeable, can only be to the detriment of the female sex class.

That's before we even get onto prisons, sports, wards, refuges, changing rooms, toilets, social spaces etc.

So, eminent MPs, just stow it with the platitudes, the We Are The World, the Trans Are The Most Threatened Minority (no they're not, let's look at Travellers and Romany), the Stonewall/Mermaids pro forma statements sent to every politician to be regurgitated like brain dead parrots.

You'll speak for all of us to hear.

In any sane world, there would be unanimity in locking sex >>> gender, while working hard to protect individuals' right to present differently and not be victimised.

But it's not a sane world. The political class are literally lemmings here.

My vote at the GE depends on what I hear next week.

Sure, I'll share my SNP MP's response:

Is this the thread where we share our email responses? Here's the one from my SNP MP:

Thank you for taking the time to write to me on this important subject, and please accept my apologies for the delay in a response to you.

Allow me to start by saying that I find the current Tory proposals for “clarifying” the Equality Act deeply unnecessary and even concerning, especially in light of the fact that they come to us in an atmosphere of continuing attacks on trans people in the public sphere, including an unprecedented challenge to Scotland’s devolution by way of the use of a S35 order to block the Gender Recognition Reform Bill.

Sex, sexual orientation, and gender reassignment are protected characteristics listed in the Equality Act 2010. “Clarification” that “sex” means the sex individuals are identified as at birth carries with itself the implication of clawing back rights that already exist, for purposes that remain fundamentally unclear, in the aftermath of a Scottish Parliament bill that explicitly states it does not modify the Equality Act 2010 or change the legal weight and effect of a Gender Recognition Certificate.

At present, the Equality Act does not deny that trans people can be excluded from communal accommodation and other single‑sex services where that is a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim. As such, any “clarification” would suggest an intent to further reduce existing rights for trans people, and while I treat any proposals for such “clarifications” with the utmost seriousness, at present I do not believe I can in good faith support them.

I hope this answers your query, and please do not hesitate to get in touch if there is anything else I can assist with.

So she has decided to retire ...hmm.

The trouble is there’s no shortage of gender believers in these parties

I'm with you all the way on the fucks.
I'd only add, get the fuck out!

This.

Caroline is intentionally and demonstrably talking utter bollocks.

She knows that she is talking bollocks.

She knows that everyone else knows that she is talking bollocks.

Looking reality in the face and denying it's there? Bit of a capacity issue for an MP.

I think she heard you... 😱

Yes.

She clearly does see a difference between transwomen and women, hence why she's only capable of listening to one

It's the same as people who talk about not caring if people are blue/green. Pretending there isn't a difference helps no one

Someone like Caroline Lucas must have worked it out, but it’s expedient to sacrifice women. I voted Green last time (wouldn’t vote for Corbyn or Johnson, concerned over the environment). I finally cancelled my Green Party membership a few days ago because the head of the women’s group is campaigning against the clarification of “sex” in the equality legislation. The Greens are obsessed with this when they should be focussing on saving the planet. I’ve told them this and that while trans people deserve and have protection, so should women too. Shame on them the judases.

About time she exited the HOC/politics one way or another. I hope she doesn't end up in the lords!
Perhaps @greenpartyshame should send her a link to the ' skirt goes spinny ' documentary, ' What Is A Woman - Wrong Answers Only ' , though no doubt she'd report you for sending her porn, or something!
Great documentary though, so worth a watch but don't watch it near kids, is my advice.

Which she is excusing to herself by repeating the Hail Mary that they're WOMEN, they're WOMEN, they're not men at all.... because if they were men this would be FUBAR.

She in fact sees the duty of women to service provide for men at their own expense, without protest.

Binary, sex based prejudice. It is male supremacism.

Yep. She’s asking women to not see a male no matter what in any space, and any male can enter at will

I've always contended, if this was just females transing to men, no way would this phenomenon have ingrained itself like Japanese Knotweed.

Can you even contemplate men bowing to transmen entering in greater and greater numbers into the boardroom, the golf club, the brothel, the ManOSphere online space, the sports pitch, the stag do, etc etc?

No fucking way.

There'd have been no XY version of Catherine Lucas or Lisa Nandy or Ash Sarkar who would have told XYs to suck it up, move over.

No male dominated leftist parties or trade unions or media cabals that would have forced men to accept that TMAM.

On the other hand, TWAW...