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Fantastic piece by Kathleen Stock

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RoyalCorgi · 07/06/2023 08:16

I love this. It's a great rebuttal of Ed Balls (in his recent tv interview with her) and Matthew Parris's confused Times article - as well as a lovely tribute to the other brave and brilliant women campaigning on this issue. Thank you, Kathleen.

[[https://unherd.com/2023/06/the-gender-wars-are-not-a-gift-to-the-right/

The gender wars are not a gift to the Right

Concerned women are hardly extremists

https://unherd.com/2023/06/the-gender-wars-are-not-a-gift-to-the-right

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RoyalCorgi · 07/06/2023 09:03

TinselAngel · 07/06/2023 08:52

Context for those who missed it at the time:

twitter.com/transwidows/status/1390947545422118919?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

That's a fair point, Tinsel. I think Kathleen Stock has been on a learning journey, and she was probably inclined to be over-generous to the other side when she wrote the book. But you're right, she should have acknowledged that she was wrong.

An old clip emerged the other day of Julie Bindel saying that trans women could be lesbians, which was either amusing or horrifying, depending on your stance.

I still think this is a cracking piece from Kathleen.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 07/06/2023 09:02

Isn't it a great article? I love that there are so many articulate women - Helen Joyce, Maya, Stephanie Davies-Arai, Nic Williams, Janice Turner, Julie Bindel - to name just a few, who speak & write so clearly.
I was feeling quite miserable having read the nonsense about the Derbyshire school / pride / drag queen debacle and this has cheered me right up

Villagetoraiseachild · 07/06/2023 08:56

Thanks for posting this @RoyalCorgi. It's a really helpful overview.

TinselAngel · 07/06/2023 08:52

Context for those who missed it at the time:

twitter.com/transwidows/status/1390947545422118919?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

TinselAngel · 07/06/2023 08:49

My friend Lang (late of this parish) rails about the gentry left never, ever admitting they're wrong, and though it will make her head even bigger, I admit she is proved right again.

TinselAngel · 07/06/2023 08:48

The breathtaking hypocrisy of saying in your book that radical feminists (and by extension trans widows) are extreme then saying the opposite, without ever actually admitting that you were wrong and all the ordinary women pointing it out to you at the time were right!

Helleofabore · 07/06/2023 08:43

That was an excellent essay across different levels. She explained the space that is MN FWR very well in those paragraphs, whether she meant just twitter or not. She encapsulated this board’s spirit in her words.

borntobequiet · 07/06/2023 08:42

Super article. She’s got a great turn of phrase -

Most ordinary people have not been educated into this level of stupidity.