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Fuck Oxfam

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DismantledKing · 05/06/2023 21:55

Anyone seen the tweet by Maya tonight about this little animation by Oxfam? Here’s the link:

https://twitter.com/mforstater/status/1665817901327085568?s=46&t=U7-xooKExwmFQ8mivn72lw

as I said, fuck Oxfam.

Fuck Oxfam
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Izzy24 · 06/06/2023 08:57

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 05/06/2023 22:43

I don't normally do boycotting, but I think it's safe to say that I'm now done with Oxfam

they can get to fuck

Indeed.

The phrase that instantly leaps to mind is the one about all it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to say nothing….

Hoppinggreen · 06/06/2023 08:49

So Feminism causes rape?
Fuck you Oxfam

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 08:48

Musomama1 · 06/06/2023 07:49

That comparison spring to my mind too

Yes - very strongly reminiscent of 1930s totalitarian propaganda, from the USSR and Franco's Spain, as well as Germany. The trope of ordinary people being controlled by evil puppet masters behind the scenes is classically anti-Semitic too. It's impossible to believe that whoever came up with the Oxfam stuff is unaware of these resonances.

soddingspiderseason · 06/06/2023 08:46

JulieHoney · 06/06/2023 08:34

For anyone cancelling their Oxfam contribution, Lumos is an excellent alternative.

Yes this is exactly what I did. Switched my Oxfam monthly donation to Lumos.

ValerieDoonican · 06/06/2023 08:45

@GulesMeansRed maybe you can make the window display green and purple themed at all times?

ThePlasticScouser · 06/06/2023 08:35

Right, Oxfam book shop can F’off now. No longer donating or buying from them.

JulieHoney · 06/06/2023 08:34

For anyone cancelling their Oxfam contribution, Lumos is an excellent alternative.

DrBlackbird · 06/06/2023 08:30

Clymene · 06/06/2023 07:56

So supporting child rapists and traffickers, demonising women, celebrating self harm and now hounding a woman out of her job for wrongthink

unherd.com/2023/06/i-quit-oxfam-over-jk-rowling/

That was a horrific article. So very Orwellian. Going by what ‘Maria’ said, she never actually made any trans related comments other than to ask for evidence of JKR’s transphobia. She, apparently, never tried to even argue that sex is immutable. Just spoke about freedom of speech (ironically).

Yet Oxfam seemed to frame the whole investigation as if she was another MF and the only issue was that the process wasn’t handled properly eg We believe that each member of our community has a right to their own religious or philosophical beliefs, including the belief that ‘sex is immutable’ and ‘sex is important’. We acknowledge that in dealing with your case and during the disciplinary process we made mistakes. We are sorry for the procedural mistakes we made in the handling of this case Nothing at all about the valid and bigger questions about censorship and why discuss banning JKR and not any other authors?

It is so illustrative and so worrying how easily and how fully captured are any and all liberal and ‘progressive’ people and organisations, from individuals in health and education policy to whole scale countries. This ideology surely could not have taken root so quickly and so comprehensively if it wasn’t on the back of dark undercurrents of misogyny. Still, I cannot understand my intelligent feminist colleagues who also adhere to TWAW. They are not misogynists. Or friends who are doctors. They are intelligent people.

dimorphism · 06/06/2023 08:30

Naomi Cunningham, a discrimination and employment law barrister, says the document may breach the Equality Actt_, which bans harassment in the workplace on the basis of sex.

Just putting it out there that I'd donate to any crowdfund for shop volunteers to take legal action against the hostile and toxic environment Oxfam has created for women.

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 08:30

Theseboobsweremadeforwalking · 06/06/2023 07:50

Anyone looking for a new charity to donate to- I like women for women international. I'm sure there's lots of other charities that help women as well but I originally started supporting them because of their work with survivors in the DRC (and if anyone knows of any issues with them like oxfam please let me know!).

Agree, I have been supporting them for a long time too and been pleased with their approach - defined outcomes for individuals and a focus on upskilling women.

Fenlandia · 06/06/2023 08:25

I wonder if Oxfam GB's social media admin has switched on their phone yet? 😬

Zita60 · 06/06/2023 08:23

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 06/06/2023 06:50

Apologies if I’ve missed someone else posting this

It's an appalling story. It shows how thoroughly captured Oxfam is, to treat an employee like that.

WarriorN · 06/06/2023 08:16

MrsJamin · 06/06/2023 08:08

My goodness that tweet is ratioed... 1448 replies, 75 retweets (without comment) 300 likes, video seen 403k times. (obviously this is at the time of writing this)

KJK has over 1300 likes for her comment alone.

ResisterRex · 06/06/2023 08:15

MurielThrockmorton · 06/06/2023 07:41

Oxfam UK has suspended their Twitter account. Someone said the film is from Oxfam International, although I presume Oxfam UK shared it. Anyway they are obviously worried, whether it will make any difference though who knows….

Interesting. I think the tweet was from an international account(?). But who knows what's going on

inamarina · 06/06/2023 08:10

ResisterRex · 05/06/2023 22:25

Oxfam is a lost cause. This was June 2021:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/06/09/oxfam-training-guide-blames-privileged-white-women-root-causes/

"An Oxfam staff training document says “privileged white women” are supporting the root causes of sexual violence by wanting "bad men" imprisoned.
In the wake of sex scandals that have rocked the charity, Oxfam has produced guidance which states that: “Mainstream feminism centres on privileged white women and demands that ‘bad men’ be fired or imprisoned”.
Accompanied by a cartoon of a crying white woman, it adds that this “legitimises criminal punishment, harming black and other marginalised people”.
It advises staff to read a controversial book which concludes: “Mainstream feminism is supporting, not undoing, the root causes of sexual violence.”
Oxfam said that the training was voluntary, and the views are not presented as its own but designed to help staff understand the issues.
However, the charity was warned on Wednesday night that the document, compiled by its LGBT network and seen by The Telegraph, could breach equality laws as it suggests reporting rape is "contemptible".
The four-week “learning journey” recommends that staff read Me Not You: The Trouble with Mainstream Feminism, a book by Alison Phipps, a professor of gender studies at the University of Sussex.
Summarising the book’s central premise, the Oxfam document says white feminists need to ask themselves whether they are causing harm when they fight sexual violence.
It then links to Prof Phipps’s Twitter account and a thread which summarises the main themes of the book, including: “White feminist tears deploy white woundedness, and the sympathy it generates, to hide the harms we perpetuate through white supremacy.”
Naomi Cunningham, a discrimination and employment law barrister, says the document may breach the Equality Actt_, which bans harassment in the workplace on the basis of sex.
“The message seems to be that a woman who reports a rape or sexual assault to the police and presses charges is a contemptible ‘white feminist’,” said Ms Cunningham. “I think any woman could make an arguable case that this has created or contributed to ‘an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment’, which is how the Equality Act defines harassment.”
Learning About Trans Rights and Inclusion was drawn up in 2020, whilst Oxfam was still reeling from sexual exploitation scandals in Haiti and Chad.
The charity suffered further blows in April this year, when a female aid worker quit alleging that there was a “toxic culture” and her sexual harassment complaint had been ignored, and it faced separate allegations of sexual misconduct in the Democratic Republic of Congo."

Summarising the book’s central premise, the Oxfam document says white feminists need to ask themselves whether they are causing harm when they fight sexual violence.
“White feminist tears deploy white woundedness, and the sympathy it generates, to hide the harms we perpetuate through white supremacy.”

Is this what happens when people get carried away with their thought experiments in academia?
Meanwhile, in the real world:

Naomi Cunningham, a discrimination and employment law barrister, says the document may breach the Equality Actt_, which bans harassment in the workplace on the basis of sex.

MrsJamin · 06/06/2023 08:08

My goodness that tweet is ratioed... 1448 replies, 75 retweets (without comment) 300 likes, video seen 403k times. (obviously this is at the time of writing this)

MurielThrockmorton · 06/06/2023 08:06

That was probably a fake account. Oxfam in the UK is oxfamgb on Twitter.

Ah, okay, though I can’t see that Oxfam GB has tweeted it. Though I was already boycotting them because of the privileged white women thing, shame as I’ve got a great book shop that also sells sheet music in my town that I used to use a lot.

Helleofabore · 06/06/2023 07:59

MurielThrockmorton · 06/06/2023 07:41

Oxfam UK has suspended their Twitter account. Someone said the film is from Oxfam International, although I presume Oxfam UK shared it. Anyway they are obviously worried, whether it will make any difference though who knows….

The account you want is Oxfamgb.

And UK Oxfam has not tweeted this wreck of an ad. Almost like oxfamgb understand that they will be crucified.

However, the main Oxfam account is happily retweeting all the other countries that did tweet it. And the comments are all still open. They are very proud of their production.

https://twitter.com/oxfam/status/1664059400632381441?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

https://twitter.com/oxfam/status/1664059400632381441?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

dimorphism · 06/06/2023 07:58

My heart hurts for the recipients of international aid as money donated in good faith gets spent producing hate material like this instead

yes, and apparently also paying people to come up with contorted justifications for rape. How can they possibly justify spending money this way?

Eatstootsandleaves · 06/06/2023 07:58

I wonder how many terfs there are volunteering in their shops and with standing orders to the charity? I guess Oxfam will find out. I'm hoping for a Budweiser-style reaction.

I came across a WI stall at an event recently and complained to the women running it about the WI allowing transwomen to join and now, apparently, sit on the management committee. The three women I spoke to agreed with me but were sticking with the WI to try to change things. I refused their invitation to become a member.

CrossPurposes · 06/06/2023 07:57

MurielThrockmorton · 06/06/2023 07:41

Oxfam UK has suspended their Twitter account. Someone said the film is from Oxfam International, although I presume Oxfam UK shared it. Anyway they are obviously worried, whether it will make any difference though who knows….

That was probably a fake account. Oxfam in the UK is oxfamgb on Twitter.

Clymene · 06/06/2023 07:56

So supporting child rapists and traffickers, demonising women, celebrating self harm and now hounding a woman out of her job for wrongthink

unherd.com/2023/06/i-quit-oxfam-over-jk-rowling/

Chersfrozenface · 06/06/2023 07:53

Years ago my former firm had Oxfam as a client. They were right up there with our most grasping, demanding, late-paying commercial clients.

In the end we told them to shove it.

endofthelinefinally · 06/06/2023 07:52

WomanIsEnough · 06/06/2023 07:26

Please find your local small charity dealing with poverty or similar and volunteer with them instead they are likely to be struggling as most of the money from trusts goes to the big charities with their big fundraising teams.

My heart hurts for the recipients of international aid as money donated in good faith gets spent producing hate material like this instead. Angry

Exactly this.
There are so many organisations on our own doorsteps that we can check out thoroughly and support.
I am so disillusioned with these big organisations that are corrupt gravy trains.
I was brought up always do some voluntary work, and brought my dc up the same. I am very, very careful who I support.

Theseboobsweremadeforwalking · 06/06/2023 07:50

Anyone looking for a new charity to donate to- I like women for women international. I'm sure there's lots of other charities that help women as well but I originally started supporting them because of their work with survivors in the DRC (and if anyone knows of any issues with them like oxfam please let me know!).